Vanson Enfield fit check

[bizrkartendiankirt]

Hello guys,

what do you think about the fitting of this jacket?

The arms are too long, in my opinion. Should I bring this jacket to a tailor?

When I close the zippers on the arms, the leather accumulates too much on the upper arm.

 

[Observe]

Based on the pictures, the sleeves appear to be at least an inch too long for you. Sleeve length is ultimately a matter of preference, but the length on your jacket is causing you fit issues with how the sleeve stacks on your arm when it's zipped. The jacket also looks pretty new, which means the leather needs to break in a bit, which may make things look a bit awkward at first, further exacerbating your pictured issue.

If you have a reputable local tailor who is comfortable working with leather, I'd go there, otherwise searching this forum for a good leather tailor will provide you with some information. I know, not from first hand experience, but from word of mouth here, that Great Leather, run by a lady named Dena Hamilton, is highly regarded. If you don't have anything good locally, expect to pay $150+ for sleeve shortening and shipping.

Edit: just want to add that I think the jacket otherwise fits you well from what I can see in the pictures.

 

[dubpynchon]

The sleeves on Vanson jackets are always too long for me as well, it’s a pain. I’ve gotten mine shortened, which I might fail to mention if I sell the jacket on… (not on here though)

 

[Canuck Panda]

You can get them shortened an inch if you like. Vanson sleeves tend to be on the longer side, always plus 1”. My model B jackets sleeves are also on the longer side. The jacket torso fits you well. Wear and see if you can live with the sleeve length as is, if not shortening isn’t a big job. Vanson sleeves are just folded so it can look factory even after shortening.

 

[dudewuttheheck]

Sleeves are definitely too long. Shoulder/chest area has a lot of folding going on as well.

 

[bizrkartendiankirt]

Shoulder/chest area has a lot of folding going on as well.

So...?

 

[dudewuttheheck]

So...?

The ratio between shoulder and chest is off. It doesn't look great. If you're satisfied then it doesn't matter, but I wouldn't keep a jacket that had that folding in that area when zipped.

 

[bizrkartendiankirt]

The ratio between shoulder and chest is off. It doesn't look great. If you're satisfied then it doesn't matter, but I wouldn't keep a jacket that had that folding in that area when zipped.

Does it will not get corrected when the jacket got broke in and the leather got softer?

 

[bizrkartendiankirt]

You can get them shortened an inch if you like. Vanson sleeves tend to be on the longer side, always plus 1”. My model B jackets sleeves are also on the longer side. The jacket torso fits you well. Wear and see if you can live with the sleeve length as is, if not shortening isn’t a big job. Vanson sleeves are just folded so it can look factory even after shortening.

I was at my tailor, but did not bring my jacket directly, showed only pictures. Next time I will bring it to him.
What is the best way for shortening? He does not know if he can do it from the shoulders, he wants to to it from the forearms. But he first have to see the jacket in reallife.

I thought, from the shoulders would be the best way?

 

[Canuck Panda]

I was at my tailor, but did not bring my jacket directly, showed only pictures. Next time I will bring it to him.
What is the best way for shortening? He does not know if he can do it from the shoulders, he wants to to it from the forearms. But he first have to see the jacket in reallife.

I thought, from the shoulders would be the best way?

It is possible to shorten it from the shoulder but it would be a HUGE expensive job and would most likely narrow the shoulder width, altered arm hole size as a result. Anytime shoulder surgery is performed on a jacket it's basically a remake job in man hours if done correctly. Very pricey for just sleeve length alteration.
I would recommand to do it from the wrist. Vanson does their wrist differently in the sense that there is no top stitch and more folded leather, like a suit, so easily modified. You will end up with a bit shorter wrist zip length but Vanson has a bit longer than normal wrist zip to begin with anyways.
Vanson sleeve at the wrist:

 

[bizrkartendiankirt]

It is possible to shorten it from the shoulder but it would be a HUGE expensive job and would most likely narrow the shoulder width, altered arm hole size as a result. Anytime shoulder surgery is performed on a jacket it's basically a remake job in man hours if done correctly. Very pricey for just sleeve length alteration.
I would recommand to do it from the wrist. Vanson does their wrist differently in the sense that there is no top stitch and more folded leather, like a suit, so easily modified. You will end up with a bit shorter wrist zip length but Vanson has a bit longer than normal wrist zip to begin with anyways.
Vanson sleeve at the wrist:
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Thank you! I do not understand at all, when shortening from the wrist, there will be a new visible seam on the leather, around the wrist or what??

 

[barnabus]

Could it be that the sleeves are too long because the jacket is just too big? @bizrkartendiankirt, were you able to try on a size down when you got this?

 

[dudewuttheheck]

No, not in my experience. To me, the jacket just looks too big overall.

Does it will not get corrected when the jacket got broke in and the leather got softer?

 

[bizrkartendiankirt]

Could it be that the sleeves are too long because the jacket is just too big? @bizrkartendiankirt, were you able to try on a size down when you got this?

No, I bought this jacket from eBay in germany (i live there)...

Hmmmm , when I have a wool sweater under the jacket, in my opinion it seems not like it is too big...

I will post another fit photos later.

This is a 36 size. I am 72kgs at 173cm, I think a 34 will be to small.

 

[Marc mndt]

This is a 36 size.

Vanson sizing is somewhat weird. With my 43" chest I usually wear a size 42 from most makers.

Some vanson models I can wear size 38.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Thank you! I do not understand at all, when shortening from the wrist, there will be a new visible seam on the leather, around the wrist or what??

No, there will be no visible stitch holes because it's shortening. I didn't wear my Vanson today, when I get home I will take a few close up photos.

The regular Enfield has very generous chest ease but coupled with very high armholes, like the model B. I tried all different sizes of the B and I also wouldn't recommand downsizing, the shoulder and armpit tension won't work. There is a slim fit Enfield called "Royal Enfield" that is meant for the slim fit purpose, it also has a one piece back.

 

[Canuck Panda]

Vanson sizing is somewhat weird. With my 43" chest I usually wear a size 42 from most makers.

Some vanson models I can wear size 38.

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That one might have been mis tagged.

That winward is suppose to be their most slim fit, tag size plus 3" is the chest circumference. Judging by the lowered armhole on your jacket that would be a 42/44 in their current size tag at least.

 

[bizrkartendiankirt]

Is the whole fitting of the jacket really that bad?

 

[MrProper]

Is the whole fitting of the jacket really that bad?

Do you like the fit? Apart from the sleeves?
Then it's all good. Wear the jacket and be happy. If you have doubts, then it doesn't fit.
And I hope for your sake that the tailor is a leather tailor. I'm not sure a normal tailor can do it well.

 

[bizrkartendiankirt]

Do you like the fit? Apart from the sleeves?
Then it's all good. Wear the jacket and be happy. If you have doubts, then it doesn't fit.
And I hope for your sake that the tailor is a leather tailor. I'm not sure a normal tailor can do it well.

Mhhh. When it does not fit how a leather jacket should, than its...

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