One of my M-65 field jackets has the liner buttoned in. It is a warm liner, but I can't compare with the N-3b as I have never worn one. I think of the M-65 as a field jacket and not a parka, irrespective of its official nomenclature. The N-3b is truly a parka.Does anybody here also have experiences with the m65 parka (with the liner) and how it compares in warmth to the N3B? Both are stated as Parka, Extreme Cold Weather. Just that one is army, one airforce.
One of my M-65 field jackets has the liner buttoned in. It is a warm liner, but I can't compare with the N-3b as I have never worn one. I think of the M-65 as a field jacket and not a parka, irrespective of its official nomenclature. The N-3b is truly a parka.
I don't understand your point. The USAF used nylon flying gear with wool/cotton insulation because that was the best they had at the time. Once flame/heat resistant cloths became feasible and affordable, they switched over completely. The USAF never issued or used nylon jackets with synthetic insulation as flying clothing.Yes, but the funny thing is that the early N3Bs would have been way more fire resistant (wool + cotton). So for that particular purpose (an actual flight jacket), it seems an odd choice.
I've got an M-65 Parka (80's run), I had the hood trimmed with vintage fur (synthetic white stuff removed), TBH even my Alpha N-2B (synthetic interlining) is warmer, these Parka's come up big to go over other kit, I wear mine mainly for it's water repellent qualities in colder weather.
Coldest weather, I wear an N-2A or early N-2B.
I don't understand your point. The USAF used nylon flying gear with wool/cotton insulation because that was the best they had at the time. Once flame/heat resistant cloths became feasible and affordable, they switched over completely. The USAF never issued or used nylon jackets with synthetic insulation as flying clothing.
There is no evidence that USAF air crews wore nylon jackets with synthetic insulation in flight. I don't know why you keep peddling the notion that they might have. The synthetic insulation was a mod made for the civilian market.That is the point I was aiming at: there are many (supposedly?) authentic N-3Bs out there with a nylon shell and synthetic insulation. A very flammable combination. Even if it were just the pure nylon shell with wool insulation, the result would still be quite flammable. That combination seems like an unusual choice for a pilot (although would be perfectly fine for ground crew).
That’s not a criticism of the jacket itself. It’s quite possible the N-3B or N-2 were never actually used by pilots in their synthetic form. But the general public and the marketing seems to position them as such.
There is no evidence that USAF air crews wore nylon jackets with synthetic insulation in flight. I don't know why you keep peddling the notion that they might have. The synthetic insulation was a mod made for the civilian market.
It looks like they're doing an everyman version of the Buzz Gibson N3B... I agree it looks good, and I agree the snaps would be less fussy than the buttons-and-loops. Very interesting. I guess they realized there might be a market segment between pack-of-smokes Alpha prices and remortgage-your-house Buzz prices.Has anyone owned, or at least seen in person, Schott's 9838 "Satin Flight Parka"? Not a true N3-B replica, but close enough for me...I think I actually prefer the change to snaps instead of buttons for the wind flap, and I like very much the rich deep blue color.
https://shop.nordstrom.com/s/schott...Ge3ZFPHdV_GYDbsHL_sqopbUEW-2t7pYaAhZoEALw_wcB