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Jean Arthur could out-act Katharine Hepburn any day of the week.
Yes, that is probably it. Of course the same is true with a slew of other actors. Grant played the character he created, so did Bogey, Wayne, etc. I've always found Hepburn to be particularly grating on the nerves.
Jean Arthur could out-act Katharine Hepburn any day of the week.
Really? I have a whole group of friends who LOVE that movie! Doug
BTW not only was Luke originally Luke Starkiller, he was also originally a girl! And Han Solo was originally a lizardman.
BTW not only was Luke originally Luke Starkiller, he was also originally a girl! And Han Solo was originally a lizardman.
Agreed.Jean Arthur could out-act Katharine Hepburn any day of the week.
People enjoyed Wayne, and Bogey though because they portrayed an individual that many of us want to emulate. I think it was that kernel of moral individualism (Gary Cooper, and Gregory Peck play the same kind of characters at times) that they each expressed in their own way, especially when it wasn't overly preachy, which at time Wayne was, although some people like that part of him.
Wayne also had the good graces to poke fun at his image at times with movies such as North to Alaska. I think it's a bit of a shame that Wayne felt he couldn't do Blazing Saddles because of his family image, although from his pov it is understandable.
I thought Luke was originally suppose to be an old man and veteran of the "clone wars", and that those traits eventually became Obi Wan.
The sad thing is, I would have gotten a hell of a kick out of that at one time.
Actually, it has been suggested by some that the TRUE hero of Star Wars, all along, has been Artoo.
My favorite argument holds that Chewie and Artoo were in cahoots, and the heroes of the whole thing.
If you at all liked Star Wars, you should read that last piece. It's a hoot, and darned if it doesn't make sense.
In one of the threads we talked about how certain actors and actresses are always this one person for the most part and the film works if that person is suitable for the role. Clint Eastwood tends to be the same most of the time, Gene Hackman too. Stewart and Wayne did have some range where they could play the dark version of themselves. Stewart in Winchester 66 (?) is pretty dark and Wayne in both the Searchers and Liberty Valance was pretty dark.
Other people can be chameleons, Depp has range and Gary Oldman come to mind.
It's funny in the fact that I saw it in the movies when it came out. Just a few years back bought a copy of the director's cut that has some additional scenes and adds in a bit to make for better continuity. I like and enjoy the film but I don't laugh.
Wonder what makes the difference, age, regionality- something.
Han seems to be one of the few characters who really didn't change all that much. In fact he seems to be mostly inspired by Lucas' own creation, Bob Falfa from American Graffiti, who I believe was based on a real person Lucas knew.
True, but there are many people who find both Wayne and Bogey annoying. Probably more so Wayne than Bogey, but I know a few who just can't watch Bogart and wonder why he was a romantic lead.
Gary Oldman and Johnny Depp are both character actors. Depp is a strange case because he is a character actor who happened to become a movie star, but is still playing characters.
I don't think of R2 so much as the hero, but rather the plucky side kick who often saves the day. R2 is Fezzik to Luke's Inigo Montoya.
The Golden Era equivalent would be Paul Muni.
Yeah but she plays Hepburn better than anyone!
Doug
I'm of the unpopular movie opinion that if a poster despises a certain performer, that poster should also submit a performer they do like and doesn't find grating on the nerves, annoying, pretentious, etc; it provides grist for the unpopular opinion mill.
. R2 is Fezzik to Luke's Inigo Montoya.
Doug