He does it because he can. As long as people buy it on those terms, he'd be stupid not to.
This is also a way to control supply and demand and keep order books from getting too fat. A huge backlog is not always an advantage.
Same happened to me lolI visited their website today. Clicked on a jacket and.... a popup of some adult website LOL. I guess it's all part of their 'manly' experience.
The issue is that to Stu that belt is worth 250 whether included or excluded. It is made with strips of hh and does not even have the fixer? Stopper? Cross strap?I did ask him a while back and he told me he didn't include belts in the price cause most people don't wear one.
It's a loose loose situation for him though...
If the belt was included in the price people who don't wear a belt would complain that they had to pay for something they don't want, or ask for a discount to buy the jacket without the belt.
If the belt isn't included people complain that they have to pay more to get it...
You can't please everyone.
He does it because he can. As long as people buy it on those terms, he'd be stupid not to.
This is also a way to control supply and demand and keep order books from getting too fat. A huge backlog is not always an advantage.
The issue is that to Stu that belt is worth 250 whether included or excluded. It is made with strips of hh and does not even have the fixer? Stopper? Cross strap?
My 2nd hand j23 came with the belt or I would go buy the RM belt rather than getting the LW.
You are right. No one forced anyone to buy anything. I am simply stating my choice. I would not call comments on his pricing bashing.I mean, he's not forcing you to buy it is he? If you don't like it don't buy it.
Also, the belt has the fixer if you want it:
It's interresting how LW bashing goes in phases, it felt like we had evolved past that recently and then boom, a fresh bashing session to celebrate the end of 2022...
Every maker gets their fair share of bashing as far as I can tell.
Aero-bad pattern!
SB-thieves!
Vanson-Crap hide!
FC-bad pattern and worse leather!
Himel-stupid price!
Goodwear-can’t deliver!
Langlitz-fat guy jacket!
Schott-cheap…. but also…too expensive!
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain around here. LOL. What strikes me is how personal we all take it (myself included). We all like what we like and defend it, period. I think it’s both fun and funny all at once.
funny it’s exactly what I learned from my searching the forum.Every maker gets their fair share of bashing as far as I can tell.
Aero-bad pattern!
SB-thieves!
Vanson-Crap hide!
FC-bad pattern and worse leather!
Himel-stupid price!
Goodwear-can’t deliver!
Langlitz-fat guy jacket!
Schott-cheap…. but also…too expensive!
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain around here. LOL. What strikes me is how personal we all take it (myself included). We all like what we like and defend it, period. I think it’s both fun and funny all at once.
I always wonder if the people who actually attack Lost Worlds have handled any of their leather jackets.
I mean, just looking at some of the ones people have here @JMax @red devil @Carlos840 @Tom71 @Mysteryo @tmitchell59 @lopo there's no objective way to rant about the product at all so I guess next step is rant about the maker or the prices.
Surprising that people rant about Lost Worlds but find it acceptable to buy from Simmons Bilt who actually did something illegal and unethical.
You see, that´s always the thing that puzzles me: Why are some people so passionate about his demeanor.
If I
- don´t like a product
- like the product but not the price
- like product and price but not the producer,
I will just let it be and move on. What I will not do is hang around and lecture everybody else about how wrong their support is. Unless of course I have prove that I am wiser than everybody else....
Speaking generlly here; not directed to anybody specific. I always enjoy such discussions; I just don´t want to participate.
Every maker gets their fair share of bashing as far as I can tell.
Aero-bad pattern!
SB-thieves!
Vanson-Crap hide!
FC-bad pattern and worse leather!
Himel-stupid price!
Goodwear-can’t deliver!
Langlitz-fat guy jacket!
Schott-cheap…. but also…too expensive!
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain around here. LOL. What strikes me is how personal we all take it (myself included). We all like what we like and defend it, period. I think it’s both fun and funny all at once.
Full cowhide hard belt was also originally sold as an xtra item for the 50's Buco J-24 and that's fair.
LW only makes soft belt so it literally makes no difference for them whether it's attached or not. Good hard belt costs money, there's no denying that but that's not what LW's going to sell you for $250 apiece.
After reading your comment. I had to double check the original post question " Thinking about Lost Worlds.. thoughts, experiences?" For a person who does not want to participate. You definitely show YOUR views, never mind addressing the question at hand.You see, that´s always the thing that puzzles me: Why are some people so passionate about his demeanor.
If I
- don´t like a product
- like the product but not the price
- like product and price but not the producer,
I will just let it be and move on. What I will not do is hang around and lecture everybody else about how wrong their support is. Unless of course I have prove that I am wiser than everybody else....
Speaking generlly here; not directed to anybody specific. I always enjoy such discussions; I just don´t want to participate.
Crown Zippers, to the LW owners out there, are they really as smooth as people say?
I always wonder if the people who actually attack Lost Worlds have handled any of their leather jackets.
I mean, just looking at some of the ones people have here @JMax @red devil @Carlos840 @Tom71 @Mysteryo @tmitchell59 @lopo there's no objective way to rant about the product at all so I guess next step is rant about the maker or the prices.
Surprising that people rant about Lost Worlds but find it acceptable to buy from Simmons Bilt who actually did something illegal and unethical.