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Thinking about Lost Worlds.. thoughts, experiences?

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So do I. What bizarre sizing.

You expect extra-short sleeves from East Asian makers. not American ones.

I’ll measure the other jackets to give you a better idea.

I was thinking, Vanson sleeves are generally the same OTR- most of mine (42/44) have been in the 25” range. Longer ones, like the commando, don’t work for me. Most people don’t have gibbon arms (respectfully said).
 

Carlos840

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25” sleeves on a size 44??? Does Stu have a grudge against tall people?

I'm 6'2", long arms, all my custom LW are specced as 42 with the length of a 44, that usually comes up to 25.25" body an sleeves.

Personally i think that's perfect:

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These are stock 44 sizes bought second hand, i wear them in winter with extra layers:

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Spiney

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I would also see it that way.

I really seem to have gorilla arms. My shortest jacket sleeves are 27.5" at 6.5 height.
I’m 6’4”. My shortest jacket sleeves are 26.5 and that’s borderline ok. My best fits are 27-27.5.
 

J Leather Investigater

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I've heard that Lost Worlds makes the heaviest jackets. Weight and stiffness have always been a huge factor for me. I just wanted to hear your experience with that, and anything else about them you wanna toss in.

I was going to try and find/order a speed demon, or j23.

Thank you very much
Imo lostworlds1@earthlink.net is the gold standard of leather jackets. Craftsmanship top tier, customer service is professional an prompt, stu is easy to work with an responds to questions an inquiries quickly an thoroughly. As far as leather thickness an weight , if you want a thick heavy leather jacket L.W. Will deliver it! A size 44 in 4+0z hh can weigh 10lbs! J-23 with belt. There is a ton of info on the lounge. If you want a tank of a jacket that stands out (in terms of quality an weight )beside Any jacket maker place an order.
 
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Different makers for different builds. Plenty of Japanese makers that likely won’t work for me. Most Schott jackets fit me weird. Bates sizing is small and tricky for me. I suspect Thedi would need to be full custom.

If LW interests you, spec longer sleeves. If you tell Stuart you need 27/28 inch sleeves, no way he sends you 24”. That’s crazy.

Pricing sucks, is inflated or is somehow stupid for a lot of makers. Or the process imo is too time consuming, nitnoid or whatever. To me, LW is easy.

I’m a Neanderthal so DGAF about LW’s website. Though I do have enough gray matter to see why it would bother some. Talk about beating the spastic, neon blue horse. Haha. I do hate that little coked-up dopey thing.
 

Damon141

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25” sleeves on a size 44??? Does Stu have a grudge against tall people?Carlos has some of the nicest fitting Lost Worlds jackets IMO, he is tall like you.
Then Jmax is larger and shorter and he has some great ones he posted so I’m wondering if they paid the extra fee for alteration

But because I’m 5’9” I was thinking of one day contacting him to see if any models would match my height and size.
 
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Then Jmax is larger and shorter and he has some great ones he posted so I’m wondering if they paid the extra fee for alteration

But because I’m 5’9” I was thinking of one day contacting him to see if any models would match my height and size.

You and I are similarly built.
 
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I visited their website today. Clicked on a jacket and.... a popup of some adult website LOL. I guess it's all part of their 'manly' experience.

Lol! You're right. I'm getting tabs auto-close because of malware. Though it wouldn't be a bad idea to run a virus scan...
 

mumpy

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I guess the sleeve length result also depends on shoulder length. Maybe LW is more liberal in the shoulder area and that compensates a bit for slightly shorter sleeves?
 

Damon141

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I visited their website today. Clicked on a jacket and.... a popup of some adult website LOL. I guess it's all part of their 'manly' experience.
It is, and if he had a quote to go along with it

“this is mens porn, real porn, none of that shaved bush crap people watch these days, men with mustaches and women with big hair, big boobs and no asses”
 

J Leather Investigater

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Just reading this made me sick. I had no idea they had reach this point & I can't believe the belt isn't included with the jacket. It's included with the Speed Demon so why not the J-23!?

In all seriousness, that website thing they got going on was somewhat entertaining in its own way but it actually really reflects the kind of people are behind the company and how much they care about their product, their customers and themselves, because if they did, even a little bit, that's not the kind of presentation they'd want to be associated with. It's not cute anymore provided it ever was. It's gross.
& the whole "Our product speaks for our quality" approach is bs. Your website is your product, same as your jacket. They're too stupid to even realize they're losing more and more business every single day & right now they rely on literally five people that are still loyal to them.
The stupid website doesn't even appear on Google Search when you look for "Lost Worlds" and it still did, earlier this year. $3300 for a copy of another leather jacket? Yeah, right. Good riddance.
Because the belt is removable an not attached
Just reading this made me sick. I had no idea they had reach this point & I can't believe the belt isn't included with the jacket. It's included with the Speed Demon so why not the J-23!?

In all seriousness, that website thing they got going on was somewhat entertaining in its own way but it actually really reflects the kind of people are behind the company and how much they care about their product, their customers and themselves, because if they did, even a little bit, that's not the kind of presentation they'd want to be associated with. It's not cute anymore provided it ever was. It's gross.
& the whole "Our product speaks for our quality" approach is bs. Your website is your product, same as your jacket. They're too stupid to even realize they're losing more and more business every single day & right now they rely on literally five people that are still loyal to them.
The stupid website doesn't even appear on Google Search when you look for "Lost Worlds" and it still did, earlier this year. $3300 for a copy of another leather jacket? Yeah, right. Good riddance.
I believe the belt should come with but when it is not sewn on its an Xtra item. Does a belt come with real mccoy j23
 

J Leather Investigater

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I agree with Carlos. You do not need crown zippers, but his other NOS are also very expensive. The regular zippers he uses are not strong enough for a heavy leather jacket. I have seen them and personally, I would not use them. I do expect as other brands do (Vanson and Johnsons' leathers) to fit the jacket with strong zippers so they would be no need to upgrade to NOS zippers like LW most of the time needs. There are excellent American-made zippers that will be able to handle LW thick hides with no problem. Personally, I take it as an insult to my intelligence the excuse he uses to justify the sleeve charge. Furthermore, what puzzles me is why is an extra 10% charge for two of the same jackets? Does he need to make the same pattern twice? Is the pattern a one-time use only? lol. I am not a jacket maker and I have never made jackets before. I, however, can do major repairs. After speaking to him several times regarding repairs, Stu lays it just too thick in my view. One time he quoted me $1300 for a sleeve-length shortening. After shipping to him and back I was potentially looking at a $140 dollar cost. That is ten dollars short of $1500 dollars for the tailoring. That is just ridiculous. He claimed that whole new patterns and sleeves had to be created for the alteration. Which is by far the most expensive way to address the job. I remember paying that much for that jacket when it came out of his shop. There are other options for that alteration with excellent results (Not as good as professional as his method). For that reason, I decided to do it myself and the jacket sleeves came out great. It only cost me $120 for the servo motor on my 20-year-old Consew 206rb-2 Which I did not even need to be used for this particular job. Lastly, the jacket he sends to customers to try on got me thinking about how his patterns are developed. He uses a test jacket that he uses to determine fit. Lastly, I was concerned when he actually charges the credit a full retail price for a USED JACKET. He then refunds when he gets the jacket back. Many things can happen during that transaction.
You don't "NEED" them but damn they are the best zippers available, period. Once you have a JACKET with a 10 main crown ....then you know. An then ordering from l.w. makes it hard to go with any other main zipper
 
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Because the belt is removable an not attached

I believe the belt should come with but when it is not sewn on its an Xtra item. Does a belt come with real mccoy j23

I see your point but to me, a belt is a belt; If it comes with one jacket, sewn on or not, then it should come with the other, otherwise it's a money grab. Aero, Bates, Vanson, etc. all include a full leather soft belt with all (or most) of their belted styles. Stew be tryna make a cent out of a belt buckle pin if he somehow could.

You're right that the RMC J-24 doesn't come with a belt but that's because RMC sells it separately as a fancy hard belt, which is made out of different material; Something that LW doesn't even offer. Of course, that's also RMC making some extra $ on a side but at least you're not paying for something you're getting with another jacket for free.

Full cowhide hard belt was also originally sold as an xtra item for the 50's Buco J-24 and that's fair.
LW only makes soft belt so it literally makes no difference for them whether it's attached or not. Good hard belt costs money, there's no denying that but that's not what LW's going to sell you for $250 apiece.
 

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