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The Young Victoria

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Saw this last night in Pasadena, fantastic film! -Dave

If Queen Victoria, in the great beyond, had a say in the matter, you could imagine her waving an imperious hand during the casting process for The Young Victoria, demanding that she be played by "that clever girl from The Devil Wears Prada." And her edict would have been wise, because Emily Blunt is utterly charming in this dramatization of the young Victoria's ascension to the throne and her courtship with Prince Albert.

In the hands of director Jean-Marc Vallee and screenwriter Julian Fellowes, The Young Victoria adheres — mostly — to history. It's romanticized, with Victoria's beloved Albert (Rupert Friend) a more eager suitor than history indicates. And the movie may give British political scholars fits, because Lord Melbourne, the 58-year-old Prime Minister who coached Victoria in politics and queenly affairs, is played here by the dashing and quite youthful Paul Bettany, excising 20 years and at least as many pounds from Lord M.'s real person.

In 1837 the teenage Victoria was heir to the throne held by her uncle, King William (Jim Broadbent), but living in royal lockdown at Kensington Palace. "Even a palace can be a prison," she tells us. We're well acquainted with the downside of royalty, thanks to the current Windsors' chatty ex-in-laws, but Victoria isn't just whinging. She sleeps in a room with her German-born mother, the Duchess of Kent (Miranda Richardson), has only her spaniel Dash for a playmate and isn't allowed to walk down stairs alone. Her governess, the Baroness Lehzen (Jeanette Hain), is the closest thing she has to a friend.

The Duchess and her "adviser" (in both boudoir and boardroom), the glowering Sir John Conroy (Mark Strong), try to strong-arm Victoria into signing over her power to her mother, just in case King William dies before she turns 18. We want her to be Queen so she can finally say, "Off with his head." Conroy is the film's only outright villain, but he's not really much source of tension: once she's Queen, she's the boss. Nor are Lord M. or Lehzen, even though they try to manipulate the young Queen, because this is primarily a love story. It certainly has sturdy roots: Victoria ruled for 63 years and adored Albert so much that she wore black for the 40 years she was widowed. (It's believed in some quarters that she did find love again, with manservant John Brown, but that's a different movie, called Mrs. Brown.)

But was it a wild love story for both parties? It can be a challenge to trust historical dramas. We're so used to being duped that even while we're enjoying a scene, we may think it's all made up. The Young Victoria features the jolly King William at his birthday banquet, quite in his cups, trashing Victoria's mother. It's a funny bit, ending with Richardson huffing off and some dry old man saying, ruefully, "Families." This scene has the mark of something written expressly for Broadbent by Fellowes, but in Lytton Strachey's biography Queen Victoria, and again in Christopher Hibbert's, you'll find that scene, told exactly as it is onscreen. The only difference is that Blunt's Victoria doesn't burst into tears as the real princess apparently did; the movie heroine has more backbone.

She's also less gushy and girlish (Romy Schneider covered that ground in 1954's Victoria in Dover). Victoria left ample and surprisingly intimate diaries, as well as her sketchbooks, which provided evidence of her platonic infatuation with Lord M. (she mostly got misty-eyed over the idea of him as a young man) and her nearly instantaneous attraction to her cousin Albert, whom she described as "extremely handsome ... he has a beautiful nose and a very sweet mouth" — which is certainly true of Friend.

But perhaps in deference to the contemporary audience's desire to see Victoria as a Queen shaping her own destiny, the movie tilts the balance of romantic power somewhat, giving us a Victoria gradually won over by Albert's attentions. He grumbles to his brother about the political nature of the courtship ("What do you say about a man who waits for a rich woman?"), but he's soon got the mushy look of a man more than ready to fulfill his duty. The suggestion is that he'll offer her an alliance of equals. Discussing the subject of husbands and political games over a chess match, he tells her, "I should recommend you find one to play it with you, rather than for you." He is as noble and upright as anything out of a Jane Austen novel — a savior, in short. We've grown so fond of Blunt's Victoria that we just want her to have a real friend, benefits and all. We may be looking at Victoria and Albert through rose-colored glasses, but this love story is a touching romantic confection, a fine way to follow up your figgy pudding. Long live Queen Emily.

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Good, but hardly great. Sense and Sensibility and any of the many versions of Pride and Prejudice are far superior in dialog, costumes, and plot.

Lefty said:
A Young Victoria - good, but not nearly on the level of some other period pieces.
 

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Lefty said:
Good, but hardly great. Sense and Sensibility and any of the many versions of Pride and Prejudice are far superior in dialog, costumes, and plot.
Perhaps it would leave a purist dissatisfied, but as entertainment I found it thoroughly enjoyable. In fact, I could've continued watching where they left off! In typically British fashion, the characters are more important than the plot, and they are all played very well. Besides, we already know the plot! ;)
 

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Professor said:
...as entertainment I found it thoroughly enjoyable. In fact, I could've continued watching where they left off! In typically British fashion, the characters are more important than the plot, and they are all played very well.


...and Vicky's hot. British girls, love 'em. ;)
 

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Harp said:
...and Vicky's hot. British girls, love 'em. ;)
Indeed! :D
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I am a sucker for costume dramas, British history... and the very talented and beautiful Emily Blunt, so I definitely want to see this. But somehow I can't seem to work up enough enthusiasm for a theatrical excursion. I'm sure it'll be on cable in a few months.

And Lefty, just for the record, I think it's very unfair to make comparisons between films based on great novels that describe the human condition with brilliant plot and dialog (e.g., Jane Austen) and historical/biographical pieces, even if their screenplays are very good. Literature and life are not the same thing, though they can sometimes coincide...
 

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As this movie was released in Britain many moons ago I had my parents send us the DVD. After watching it my wife turned to me and said, "Lets watch it again."
I enjoyed the movie, but not THAT much...
 

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Oh, I'm in love...

...with Emily Blunt, that is! Even in an interview as herself, she's so very eloquent. :eek:



Emily Blunt has a suggestion for all those sticklers who demand real history in their film biographies.

"Watch the History Channel if you want it literal and historically perfect."

The star of "The Young Victoria" was reacting to some of the quibbling of British critics about the film, which is enjoying much better reviews in Australia and the United States than it did when it opened in Queen Victoria's native land. Gripes about this invention (the queen's husband taking a bullet for her) or that anachronism ("electric lighting, 40 years before it was invented") dominated reviews in Blunt's homeland.

"Over here, people accept it as being a love story, allowing themselves to be swept away by it, rather than getting too caught up in the details," Blunt says. But even those Brits who huffed at the accuracy of the film have praised her. "Blunt deftly judges the mixture of stubbornness and naiveté in Victoria," enthused Britain's Daily Express.

Of late, Blunt, 26, has made a specialty of playing Americans -- in "Sunshine Cleaning," "The Great Buck Howard" and "Dan in Real Life."

"But you can't get more British than playing the queen, this queen," she says. "I learned very little about Victoria in school. We've had so many kings and queens that I think the schools find it quite hard to focus on one. I remember my mum talking to me about her and saying that she'd had this terribly successful marriage and that they were very passionate about each other and that he'd died very young.

"The image I had of Victoria was of the old lady, dressed in black, in mourning. I knew nothing about the passion behind it that made her grieve so ferociously for this man, the great love of her life. That's what I loved about doing the film, discovering that passion with her as she grew to know how, playing that."

That romance is the focus of "Young Victoria." The courtly love affair (Rupert Friend plays the young, continental Prince Albert) dominates the film. Blunt plays Victoria first as a put-upon teen ruler in waiting, under the thumb of her mother (Miranda Richardson) and her mother's closest advisor (Mark Strong).

"She was driven by a desire to get back at her mother by not relinquishing any of the power that was suddenly handed to her. Playing her as a rebellious teenager was a lot of fun. She's just a girl, living at home, desperate to get away from the curfews, to date who she wanted. I could identify with that.

"I think what the film shows, more than anything, was her steely patience, waiting all those years to become the queen and to get her way once she became queen."

The "corsets," as you might guess, "were awful, like a bad day at the gym. But you can't wear sweat pants under your petticoats, can you?"

The locations, actual palaces and royal homes secured for the film by co-producer Sarah "Fergie" Ferguson, were "stunning," says Blunt. "Your posture turns more arrogant walking those halls. In character, I was utterly impossible to live with all during this shoot, I must say."

That authenticity helped with the key scene, the clumsy proposal in which the powerful young queen must hint to the powerless prince that she'll marry him.

"Victoria talked about it in her diaries about how frightening that moment was," Blunt says. "Her hands were sweating, she was so nervous. She's trying to conform to what is expected of her, this script she has to follow. But at the same time she's a nervous teenage girl who's never been in love before who has no idea how to approach this handsome, dashing man.

"By that proposal moment, she had to know she was in love with him. But she didn't know how to put that in words that fit that script that the crown she was wearing required."
 

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We're starting a two week run for this picture tonight, and the early show drew 70 people, which is incredible for here in January. So regardless of its artistic qualities, I like it.

Personally, it comes across to me like a Jane Austen story without Jane Austen -- all of the situations, but none of the real substance. Not that there's anything wrong with that, though, especially if it draws 70 people a night. And the sight of Jim Broadbent as a wacky sot of a King is not something soon to be forgotten.
 

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I absolutely loved it.

It was a bit inaccurate but not disturbingly so.

The rest of my family - who hate anything not modern - also fell in love with the film. That's success in my eyes.
 

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I have always found it odd that the woman that gave her name to an age that epitomized sexual repression had eight kids....

Haven't seen this one yet, and I prob. will. I have seen "Her Majesty Mrs. Brown", though, which I liked.
 

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Chas said:
I have always found it odd that the woman that gave her name to an age that epitomized sexual repression had eight kids....
lol

But seriously, her moniker was most likely co-opted by scribes.
 

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Chas said:
I have always found it odd that the woman that gave her name to an age that epitomized sexual repression had eight kids....

Haven't seen this one yet, and I prob. will. I have seen "Her Majesty Mrs. Brown", though, which I liked.

Nine kids, actually. ;)

I really enjoyed it - we so often don't see Victoria as a young woman, but see her more often as a dreary older lady mourning the loss of her beloved husband.
 

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