The School of Hard Knox

[Bill Hughes]

I'm hoping someone can help dating this Knox Panama. I think it is 50s. The brim is a bit narrow for me but I just couldn't pass on the color. I don't think it's ever been worn.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

I'm hoping someone can help dating this Knox Milan. I think it is 50s. The brim is a bit narrow for me but I just couldn't pass on the color. I don't think it's ever been worn.

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I can’t help with the date, but the “Genuine Panama” on the sweatband has me wondering. Genuine milan is wheat straw and not toquilla. I also know that “Milan” is also used the describe the weave process using many materials such as hemp. I just don’t see how it can be both Milan and a genuine Panama.

It’s a great hat regardless!


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[Bill Hughes]

I can’t help with the date, but the “Genuine Panama” on the sweatband has me wondering. Genuine milan is wheat straw and not toquilla. I also know that “Milan” is also used the describe the weave process using many materials such as hemp. I just don’t see how it can be both Milan and a genuine Panama.

It’s a great hat regardless!


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Ok, so I’m an idiot. It’s is indeed a Panama. It was listed as a Milan and I just copied and pasted the description into my database.

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Ok, so I’m an idiot. It’s is indeed a Panama. It was listed as a Milan and I just copied and pasted the description into my database.
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if that’s your DOH moment for the week you’re way ahead of me.


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[Scooterz]

Ok, so I’m an idiot. It’s is indeed a Panama. It was listed as a Milan and I just copied and pasted the description into my database.
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I started wondering if someone imported milan straw into Ecuador and wove it into panama hat.....just to confuse people.

 

[Fourman110]

Early 1940s Knox premier for me today. I really like this hat and hope I look this good at that age.

 

[Bill Hughes]

View attachment 199016 Early 1940s Knox premier for me today. I really like this hat and hope I look this good at that age.

It is indeed a looker. Love it.

 

[Zombie_61]

My first Knox. Brim down:

Brim up:

2" brim, 2-3/8" ribbon with back bow, current crown height 4-1/2" at the pinch down to 3-1/2" at the rear.

And the obligatory detail photos--creased with a Teardrop so it could accommodate my head, size tag (which has come loose), tip liner logo, sweatband logo (ooh, "Premier Quality" ), paper tag behind the sweat:

 

[deadlyhandsome]

My first Knox. Brim down:

Brim up:

2" brim, 2-3/8" ribbon with back bow, current crown height 4-1/2" at the pinch down to 3-1/2" at the rear.

And the obligatory detail photos--creased with a Teardrop so it could accommodate my head, size tag (which has come loose), tip liner logo, sweatband logo (ooh, "Premier Quality" ), paper tag behind the sweat:

Look good brim up or down. You wear these stingy brims as well as you do your larger Akubras.


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[drmaxtejeda]

Knox Fifty. I didn't know there were any

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[Bill Hughes]

Knox Fifty. I didn't know there were any

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Can you tell any difference between it and a Knox 40?

 

[drmaxtejeda]

Can you tell any difference between it and a Knox 40?

This felt is firmer and smoother. It reminds me of another felt but I can't remember which it was. When I get my next hat safe I am going to put all the forties, fifties and one hundreds together and compare them.


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[Zombie_61]

Look good brim up or down. You wear these stingy brims as well as you do your larger Akubras.

Thank you Brent! With my other stingy brims I much prefer them with their brims up, but I like this Knox brim up or down; I think the taller crown makes a difference.

 

[drmaxtejeda]

My first Knox. Brim down:

Brim up:

2" brim, 2-3/8" ribbon with back bow, current crown height 4-1/2" at the pinch down to 3-1/2" at the rear.

And the obligatory detail photos--creased with a Teardrop so it could accommodate my head, size tag (which has come loose), tip liner logo, sweatband logo (ooh, "Premier Quality" ), paper tag behind the sweat:

I don't remember seeing a picture with your face before. You don't look like a zombie, Z.[emoji1]

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[drmaxtejeda]

Can you tell any difference between it and a Knox 40?

Oh, and this felt is denser, much denser. That is why it is smoother and firmer.

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[Zombie_61]

I don't remember seeing a picture with your face before. You don't look like a zombie, Z.

You haven't seen me first thing in the morning before I've had coffee.

 

[Just Daniel]

On the way to visit Doctor Max. I picked this little Knox number at a Mexico City market. Ignacio will clean it right up.

30s?

Not bad. See how I worked the carro-oscura? A regular uber artist.

 

[Frunobulax]

On the way to visit Doctor Max. I picked this little Knox number at a Mexico City market. Ignacio will clean it right up.

30s?

Not bad. See how I worked the chiaro-oscura? A regular uber artist.

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I'm pretty sure that's a 30s tag.

 

[Just Daniel]

I thought so too. The felt is paper thin.

I'm pretty sure that's a 30s tag.

 

[Just Daniel]

Back in 2009 Tonio asked about a similar label - I think the consensus would be definitely pre-40s, but cam we get a closer decade? Here it is on a Knox 20 bowler I picked up.

Knox Fifth Avenue.

Unsure about date. There appears to have been a circular size sticker above the sweatband bow.

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