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The jacket fits you very well. Here is my bag, I think also a print, five days a week the skin rubs against my clothes. More than once there was a complete blotting of the leather.No changes
Great fit and interesting leather!
Dappers make the same jacket in smooth leather
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIX9Lfjjr1X/?igshid=zdkgneukjsgx
https://dappers.jp/category/leather-jacket/
http://blog-jkstyle.jugem.jp/?eid=2932#gsc.tab=0
I love it and I think the fit is the best on all your jackets. These jackets must be worn short and snug or they don't look as cool as they should in my opinion.
Contrary to most people here I do like the leather patterm and yes it does remind of crosshatch grain leather that imitates the Russian Reindeer mentioned above. A few shoe brands sell that kind of leather too although it's obviously not the original which I believe only Cleverley has access to.
Once it has adapted to your body and broken in I think it will look amazing. Please wear it straight for a few weeks/a month to see how it wears!
Funny how I always thought the open centers vents on vintage jackets were the result of years and years of stretching.Great fit and interesting leather!
Dappers make the same jacket in smooth leather
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIX9Lfjjr1X/?igshid=zdkgneukjsgx
https://dappers.jp/category/leather-jacket/
http://blog-jkstyle.jugem.jp/?eid=2932#gsc.tab=0
I wonder what will happen when you wear it and the natural grain tries to come through.
Will it take over and will the printed grain fade a bit as the natural grain takes over or will the printed grain stay that prominant. Also, i wonder how rain will affect the printing, humidity in the leather might change things a bit.
As weird as it is, i think that once broken in and serously worn this leather has the potential to look very interresting.
Please post some evo pics.
Yes that is scotch grain a corrected leather but did you see the criss-cross on the RM besides the grain creating the diamond shapes? That is like the printing on a basket ball and not on a garment.
I think you may be reffering to this "effect" that is observed when viewing the leather up close. Again, not perhaps a deal breaker for me, but gives some unique character to the jacket:
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That looks like natural grain to me, not embossed grain.This is a Block Bilt from San Francisco c.1940, so 80 years old. It does not have a leather tag. It is has a soft hand and in like new condition, but unlike anything I have experienced. It changes color too, looks grey in the light, but is Black.
This must be the West Coast patterning? If this isn't it I don't know what is.
The other jacket is late 30s Bay area in steerhide that is also most unusual.
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This is a Block Bilt from San Francisco c.1940, so 80 years old. It does not have a leather tag. It is has a soft hand and in like new condition, but unlike anything I have experienced. It changes color too, looks grey in the light, but is Black.
This must be the West Coast patterning? If this isn't it I don't know what is.
The other jacket is late 30s Bay area in steerhide that is also most unusual.
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It is a beautiful jacket. I've owned several of their jackets and lusted for others. I am intrigued by the patterning of the leather as seen on West Coast jackets. Maybe it is difficult to see/recognize when 80 + years old. Jackets from the bay area certainly had a look.
This jacket is from the late 30s San Francisco.
Is this the "patterning" ?
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Best fit. thumbs up
Looks to me like they’re replicating “Russian reindeer” leather, perhaps the most expensive leather in the world. It was leather tanned in 1786 or thereabouts, and then sunken on a merchant vessel. The leather was covered over with silt and remarkably preserved when divers unearthed in from the shipwreck in the 80s. It’s used only extremely pricey shoes, wallets, watch straps and other small leather goods because of its price, as it’s severely limited. It has a very distinct crosshatch grain, from whatever tanning process they used in Russia in the 1700s, long since lost to history.
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It’s often replicated, but usually the cross hatch grain pattern is a bit too pronounced. Still I think it’s pretty cool.
More info
https://shoegazing.com/2016/05/05/the-picture-the-russian-reindeer-leather-from-1786/
Just echoeing the obvious: Great jacket and perfect fit!
You clearly have an extravagant collection going, Jake. I believe the printed leather is a worthy addition. It will be an eye-opener to see it age.
As a "postscript" to the advertized color: When Belstaff was still british owned, they would sell their flagship jackets ("Panther" and "Gangster") in what they called "Vintage Black" and "Blackbrown". The former being a dark brown, the later a mid-brown. Only lately they included a color that I would call "black". Needless to say, quality, look and appeal has massively deteriorated since the early days.
I love it and I think the fit is the best on all your jackets. These jackets must be worn short and snug or they don't look as cool as they should in my opinion.
Contrary to most people here I do like the leather patterm and yes it does remind of crosshatch grain leather that imitates the Russian Reindeer mentioned above. A few shoe brands sell that kind of leather too although it's obviously not the original which I believe only Cleverley has access to.
Once it has adapted to your body and broken in I think it will look amazing. Please wear it straight for a few weeks/a month to see how it wears!
Great fit and interesting leather!
Dappers make the same jacket in smooth leather
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIX9Lfjjr1X/?igshid=zdkgneukjsgx
https://dappers.jp/category/leather-jacket/
http://blog-jkstyle.jugem.jp/?eid=2932#gsc.tab=0
I was referring to Mark's photo which shows scotch grain boots but as I said I doubt Dude's jacket is scotch grain.As has already been said, this is your best fitting jacket so far.
This type of embossed leather is not scotch grain, but rather "Utah" as brands such as Edward Green call it or "Alpine" (Alden) or "Russian Calf".
Here are some examples:
https://gentlemensfootwear.com/products/edward-green-dover-in-dark-brown-utah
https://www.fransboonestore.com/products/alden-alpine-grain-leather-dover
What this all means really is that it's just a crosshatch grain, which ends up being very water resistant and is usually a grain chosen for "rainy day" footwear. All these iterations are highly prized in the goodyear welt shoe/boot world so I think you're in good company. Just look at the price of what Edward Green charges and they make some of the best shoes in the world, outside of true bespoke. I own a pair of Lof & Tung chukkas in Utah grain from Skoaktiebolaget.
Sublime jacket either way and I would be happy if I was you.
This is a Block Bilt from San Francisco c.1940, so 80 years old. It does not have a leather tag. It is has a soft hand and in like new condition, but unlike anything I have experienced. It changes color too, looks grey in the light, but is Black.
This must be the West Coast patterning? If this isn't it I don't know what is.
The other jacket is late 30s Bay area in steerhide that is also most unusual.
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