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THE MALLORY MILE

LuvMyMan

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I believe it is pre-Stetson but would appreciate any input/opinions on this.
O.K. that is just killer looking...now what size is that one? Oh wait, I see it is a smaller size...drats! Was hopeful it would be a large 7 1/2 so I could do some finagling to see if I could purchase that one....haha! My Husband LOVES those thin ribbons like that one!
 
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Thanks Alan. Do you know if the Mallorys with the tag line "For Youthful Smartness" on the liner are pre-Stetson or post-Stetson acquisition?

The commonly held notion around these parts is that <Established 1823> denotes a pre-purchase Mallory, while <Established 1817> appeared during the Stetson ownership. Certainly there was some crossover as supplies were used, depleted and restocked. Youthful Smartness can be seen in both versions. I don't think there are a whole lot of years between these two hats.

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rclark

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O.K. that is just killer looking...now what size is that one? Oh wait, I see it is a smaller size...drats! Was hopeful it would be a large 7 1/2 so I could do some finagling to see if I could purchase that one....haha! My Husband LOVES those thin ribbons like that one!
Thanks! I will let you know for sure if I come across one in 7 1/2. It is a great hat, albeit a bit tight on my melon but I make it work! Believe it or not it was a Goodwill purchase. The box along was worth more than I paid for the hat and box.
 
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The commonly held notion around these parts is that <Established 1823> denotes a pre-purchase Mallory, while <Established 1817> appeared during the Stetson ownership. Certainly there was some crossover as supplies were used, depleted and restocked. Youthful Smartness can be seen in both versions. I don't think there are a whole lot of years between these two hats./QUOTE]

Alan, since Rick's hat does have the 1823 designation, what are the other signs that point to this being a post-Stetson Mallory? THX

Love the embroidered liner tip on that second one you posted, BTW.
 
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Buler,

Perusing the Mallory MADness thread, it appears that The Dallas was marketed at least as early as 1944. Is there any evidence of an earlier incarnation than that? May I assume that at least some Dallas hats (Dallases?) were made pre-Stetson?

Has anyone seen any examples?

THX
 

buler

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Excellent. What's your estimate on age?

Sorry, missed this. We don't really know much about dating these. We do know that the Burton Taylor line was started in November 1928 and I believe it was shut down when Stetson acquired Mallory. So you have a range of 1928 - 1947. My guess on this hat is early 40s.

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buler

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Buler,

Perusing the Mallory MADness thread, it appears that The Dallas was marketed at least as early as 1944. Is there any evidence of an earlier incarnation than that? May I assume that at least some Dallas hats (Dallases?) were made pre-Stetson?

Has anyone seen any examples?

THX

Fruno, I would use the Mallory MADness thread just like you did to find the earliest reference. There are definitely examples of pre-Stetson Dallas hats. The first one I posted in this thread is one of those.

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With that liner, perhaps 60s? Do you have a link to the auction photos? There are many things to consider with MAllory hats:

Liner logo and date on liner (1823 vs. 1817)
Paper vs. fabric size tag
Black vs. brown sweatband
What does the re-order tag look like?
What is the design of the hat (crown height, brim width, taper, etc.)?
 
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