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The Bowler or Derby Hat

Mean Eyed Matt

One Too Many
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1,142
Location
Germany
To put it mildly:
probably the little cousin in shape and age
of Steve's fantastic 1900 Habig Bowler...
J. Hückel's Söhne Melone/Bowler/Derby
This stiff felt is really rather semi-stiff:
Completely dented by shipping :eek:,
but easily recovered thanks to this fact.
It comes with a wind cord & strongly bent up side brim.
The sweat has no print and is quite simple (but still soft);
the black lining with the gold logo is what drew me to it.
As far as the age is concerned, I'm a little unsure:
The shape reminds me a lot of Steve's Habig;
I didn't find this JHS label in his list so far...
Nevertheless, I think: pre WWI - maybe 1900s!?

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42047858kn.jpg

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Messages
18,379
Location
Nederland
To put it mildly:
probably the little cousin in shape and age
of Steve's fantastic 1900 Habig Bowler...
J. Hückel's Söhne Melone/Bowler/Derby
This stiff felt is really rather semi-stiff:
Completely dented by shipping :eek:,
but easily recovered thanks to this fact.
It comes with a wind cord & strongly bent up side brim.
The sweat has no print and is quite simple (but still soft);
the black lining with the gold logo is what drew me to it.
As far as the age is concerned, I'm a little unsure:
The shape reminds me a lot of Steve's Habig;
I didn't find this JHS label in his list so far...
Nevertheless, I think: pre WWI - maybe 1900s!?

42047867zg.jpg

42047866gt.jpg

42047865ks.jpg

42047864bs.jpg

42047863be.jpg

42047862su.jpg

42047861dj.jpg

42047860uu.jpg

42047858kn.jpg

42047857fn.jpg
Wonderful find, Matt. Congrats.
 

Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
Messages
8,816
Location
Denmark
A wonderful find, Matt. I really love the classic Bowler brim curves.

To put it mildly:
probably the little cousin in shape and age
of Steve's fantastic 1900 Habig Bowler...
J. Hückel's Söhne Melone/Bowler/Derby
This stiff felt is really rather semi-stiff:
Completely dented by shipping :eek:,
but easily recovered thanks to this fact.
It comes with a wind cord & strongly bent up side brim.
The sweat has no print and is quite simple (but still soft);
the black lining with the gold logo is what drew me to it.
As far as the age is concerned, I'm a little unsure:
The shape reminds me a lot of Steve's Habig;
I didn't find this JHS label in his list so far...
Nevertheless, I think: pre WWI - maybe 1900s!?

42047867zg.jpg

42047866gt.jpg

42047865ks.jpg

42047864bs.jpg

42047863be.jpg

42047862su.jpg

42047861dj.jpg

42047860uu.jpg

42047858kn.jpg

42047857fn.jpg
 
Messages
17,466
Location
Maryland
To put it mildly:
probably the little cousin in shape and age
of Steve's fantastic 1900 Habig Bowler...
J. Hückel's Söhne Melone/Bowler/Derby
This stiff felt is really rather semi-stiff:
Completely dented by shipping :eek:,
but easily recovered thanks to this fact.
It comes with a wind cord & strongly bent up side brim.
The sweat has no print and is quite simple (but still soft);
the black lining with the gold logo is what drew me to it.
As far as the age is concerned, I'm a little unsure:
The shape reminds me a lot of Steve's Habig;
I didn't find this JHS label in his list so far...
Nevertheless, I think: pre WWI - maybe 1900s!?

42047867zg.jpg

42047866gt.jpg

42047865ks.jpg

42047864bs.jpg

42047863be.jpg

42047862su.jpg

42047861dj.jpg

42047860uu.jpg

42047858kn.jpg

42047857fn.jpg
Matt, Super find! I think you are correct that is from the same time period as my P. & C. Habig Wien "Grand Prix Paris". The paper label has the JHS crest in the upper left corner like one of the labels (it has a separate Cell label) in Garrett's old JSH "Loutre" Soft Felt.
 
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17,466
Location
Maryland
St. Veit (Sankt Veit), 58 cm, Wool Felt, possibly early 1930s. There isn't a company mark but the paper label has a Sheep with a St. Veit Banner. Sankt Veit an der Glan Schafrasse is a small town in the South East corner of Austria and I couldn't find any Felt Hat production in the town. My guess is this is the source of the Wool used for the Felt. The Stiff Felt Hat was sold by a shop (Ludovikus Hagens Wwe) in a small town (Lustenau, Vorarlberg) in the upper North West corner of Austria. The Wool Felt has a nice finish and is in very good condition. The Stiff Felt has great looking Silver Gray Liner with a sharp looking Bow design.

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Ludovikus Hagens Wwe (Wwe = Widow of)

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Handwriting on the Sweatband which I will have to take a closer look at.

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Sheep With St. Veit (Sankt Veit an der Glan Schafrasse) Banner

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Ludovikus Hagens Wwe (Lustenau, Vorarlberg) was located in the front of this house. Photo from 1908.

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Ludwig "Ludovikus" Hagen passed away in 1929.

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Ludwig "Ludovikus" Hagen wife 1. Sophie (Wwe, Widow) was owner of the shop when the Stiff Felt was sold.
 
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Rmccamey

I'll Lock Up
Messages
5,818
Location
Central Texas
Another beauty for your collection.

St. Veit (Sankt Veit), 58 cm, Wool Felt, possibly early 1930s. There isn't a company mark but the paper label has a Sheep with a St. Veit Banner. Sankt Veit an der Glan Schafrasse is a small town in the South East corner of Austria and I couldn't find any Felt Hat production in the town. My guess is this is the source of the Wool used for the Felt. The Stiff Felt Hat was sold by a shop (Ludovikus Hagens Wwe) in a small town (Lustenau, Vorarlberg) in the upper North West corner of Austria. The Wool Felt has a nice finish and is in very good condition. The Stiff Felt has great looking Silver Gray Liner with a sharp looking Bow design.

51487351613_394433bee5_h.jpg


51491886349_170350fd1d_h.jpg


51491898289_398aa7c822_h.jpg


51492107655_ff791580df_h.jpg


51490391432_e853541f1c_h.jpg


Ludovikus Hagens Wwe (Wwe = Widow of)

51491201496_8b231c7af8_h.jpg


Handwriting on the Sweatband which I will have to take a closer look at.

51490400142_06e3388ee8_h.jpg


51492136240_643c17b5a7_h.jpg


Sheep With St. Veit (Sankt Veit an der Glan Schafrasse) Banner

51490420417_ca63a6c983_h.jpg


Ludovikus Hagens Wwe (Lustenau, Vorarlberg) was located in the front of this house. Photo from 1908.

Elisabethstra%C3%9Fe_7.jpg


Elisabethstra%C3%9Fe_7-01.jpg


Ludwig "Ludovikus" Hagen passed away in 1929.

Elisabethstra%C3%9Fe_7-02.jpg


Ludwig "Ludovikus" Hagen wife 1. Sophie (Wwe, Widow) was owner of the shop when the Stiff Felt was sold.
 
Messages
12,384
Location
Albany Oregon
Messages
12,384
Location
Albany Oregon
Definitely give him a call. He has recently acquired a "better" block (I assume that means more period correct...in size 1/8). I should have a sample to show off in a few weeks.

I am lucky to be just down the road about 45 minutes from Eugene. I try to get in on a regular basis. Sometimes I order a hat, and others, just visit. I do get to see everyone's hats from time to time. I fondle as many as I can.
 

Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
Messages
8,816
Location
Denmark
Recent find.
Crosby and Company bowler. Size 7 1/2 (60) with the brim at 5,5cm and the crown at about 12,5cm, which is slightly lower than usual. Pre-war, made for Kaufman. Great hand to the felt. A few loose stitches, but in great shape.

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Nice find, Stefan. I don't think I've seen that maker before. American I presume.
 
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11,633
Recent find.
Crosby and Company bowler. Size 7 1/2 (60) with the brim at 5,5cm and the crown at about 12,5cm, which is slightly lower than usual. Pre-war, made for Kaufman. Great hand to the felt. A few loose stitches, but in great shape.

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Beautiful bowler Stefan
 

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