Straw Types

[Bill Hughes]

Are Hemp and Milan the same? I see hats advertised at Hemp Milan.

 

[M Hatman]

Are Hemp and Milan the same? I see hats advertised at Hemp Milan.

NO............they have been advertising many a weird straw name lately..........
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[moontheloon]

Are Hemp and Milan the same? I see hats advertised at Hemp Milan.

correct me if I am wrong .. .I am no straw hat expert ... but I believe "Milan" is a type of weave and "Hemp" is a material

a "Milan" can be woven from multiple materials ... Hemp being one of them

 

[Bamaboots]

http://optimo.com/newsletter/issue3/index.html

 

[FedOregon]

Bastardization of processes are as common as lice on stray dogs.

The term "Shantung Panama" sets me to reeling in vertigo perplexus. How a machine made, paper hat has anything remotely to do with handmade paja toquilla straw is beyond comprehension.

 

[Bob Roberts]

correct me if I am wrong .. .I am no straw hat expert ... but I believe "Milan" is a type of weave and "Hemp" is a material

a "Milan" can be woven from multiple materials ... Hemp being one of them

CORRECTOMUNDO!

 

[RJR]

This is a Peters Brothers milan weave made of hemp.The lower is a Stetson milan weave of synthetic material.

 

[M Hatman]

True "Milan" as in the weave, is traditionally made with wheat straw.....now in differant circles "Milan" has often come to refer also to the particular straw from Italy, and not only the weave......and sometimes not the weave at all, but just the straw.
M

 

[BobHufford]

Can anyone put a name to this weave. The hat came out of the Philippines prior to 1945, but not sure if it originated there.

 

[Bamaboots]

Can anyone put a name to this weave. The hat came out of the Philippines prior to 1945, but not sure if it originated there.

Bob, it may be balibuntal, at least it's the only straw I remember seeing rolled and stored in a bamboo tube. I think Alan has posted some.

 

[carouselvic]

Baku me thinks

 

[FedOregon]

Baku, Parabuntal, Balibuntal... I actually have a similar tube at the post office now. Going to pick it up tomorrow morning... not sure, but your weave looks different than the weave style on mine.

 

[belfastboy]

http://optimo.com/newsletter/issue3/index.html

Great link. I had the pleasure of watching Art at VS with one of his legit Milan hats. There are still real ones out there.

 

[belfastboy]

True "Milan" as in the weave, is traditionally made with wheat straw.....now in differant circles "Milan" has often come to refer also to the particular straw from Italy, and not only the weave......and sometimes not the weave at all, but just the straw.
M

I have a relatively modern Dobbs "Milan" that is made from what seems to be a plasticized paper product. I love the shape of the hat but it is a far cry from a good hat.

 

[moehawk]

Can anyone put a name to this weave. The hat came out of the Philippines prior to 1945, but not sure if it originated there.

It looks to me to be a similar weave pattern to a Baku that Alan has posted. Not having a Baku myself, it's hard to be certain. Not sure about being a buntal, all the ones I have seen have a distinctive rectangular weave origin point pattern. Buntals do come from the Phillipines, though.
I guess that cleared up absolutely nothing. Sorry.

 

[alanfgag]

Can anyone put a name to this weave. The hat came out of the Philippines prior to 1945, but not sure if it originated there.

Carouselvic called it correctly above...

baku

buntal

 

[BobHufford]

Thanks everyone for weighing in. Love this place..

 

[FedOregon]

I picked up mine today @BobHufford and it is a buntal weave per the pictures posted above by @alanfgag

 

[BobHufford]

I picked up mine today @BobHufford and it is a buntal weave per the pictures posted above by @alanfgag

Pics!

 

[FedOregon]

I'll get my pics taken in the a.m.