Stetson Sweat Stamps/ LOT XXXX

[alanfgag]

Excellent Victor.

Splintercellsz, Don't risk the sweatband stitching... but if there is any flexibility in the sweat and your wrists you can use a small mirror to see the number and take a photo.

 

[splintercellsz]

I will see what I can do.

 

[splintercellsz]

I tried. And popped some more stitches in the process, but it needs to be sent to a hatter anyway, as the sweat was trying to come out of the hat on a side.

I can see a number that matches a number on the hat (matching sweat number & hat number)

Which is here, but I doubt it is the number you are specifying.

The number is B55419

 

[alanfgag]

Yes, the number that matches the duplication label is a difference stamp. The Lot Stamp is larger and will say LOT XXXX - four digits. Don't sweat it. Take care of that nice old hat.

 

[splintercellsz]

Will do. Hopefully there may be the remnants of one when a hatter can go to re-stitch the sweat in!

 

[alanfgag]

Stetson Stratoliner Vita-Felt Process, c.1941 LOT 76?07

 

[bowlerman]

Stetson No.1 Quality

I think that's LOT 7686

I don't know what that means.

 

[randooch]

What a gorgeous lid.

 

[alanfgag]

It's cousin, posted by Buler:

First two hats posted that share the same LOT####!

 

[Joshbru3]

First two hats posted that share the same LOT####!

Excellent research on these lot numbers, Alan!! :eusa_clap:eusa_clap

 

[Dinerman]

Not a Stetson, an Alexander, but the same sweatband markings. Lot 6378.

 

[alanfgag]

Stop messing with my ordered universe, Dinerman!

I assume Stetson was making their sweatbands at this time... perhaps GW Alexander & Co. outsourced their sweats from their neighbor?

 

[Dinerman]

Stop messing with my ordered universe, Dinerman!

Just trying to complicate things. Ha! A small maker like Alexander, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they farmed out components to bigger factories.

Looks like at one point in their life, Alexander was owned by Stetson, but I don't know about this early on.
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?54488-Alexander-Hats

 

[alanfgag]

Stetson Clear Nutria/ LOT 3729

 

[Joshbru3]

Stetson Clear Nutria/ LOT 3729

Where does this hat fit within the Lot stamp timeline?

 

[danofarlington]

It equates to 22 B.C., no?

 

[alanfgag]

Where does this hat fit within the Lot stamp timeline?

From my collection, a little later than this 1X Nutria with Fray sweatband (3057)

and a little earlier than this Real Nutria Fur western (4427)

which I am guessing falls in the first half of the 1920s.

 

[Joshbru3]

That's REALLY interesting, Alan. Thanks so much for this research! I hope that one day, sitting in an old pile of books in an antique store, is an old Stetson ledger with all the lot numbers and what hats were produced within those lots. That would be the holy grail of Stetson ledgers for sure!

*and that was my 3000 post!

 

[alanfgag]

I'm happy to have your 3000th post in this thread, Josh.

Wouldn't it would be great to have more hats represented with their sweat LOT numbers? I spent some time yesterday going through the older posts in the pre 1940s Stetson Western thread. There are so many fantastic hats posted there - I would love to have some of these represented.

I will be taking a week off during the holidays and I hope to find time to make a visual timeline of the hats we have posted. If we can add a bunch more and are lucky enough to find a few with known date provenance this could become a useful addition to the tools we have for dating old Stetson styles and marks.

 

[Joshbru3]

I'm happy to have your 3000th post in this thread, Josh.

Thanks so much! :yo:

Wouldn't it would be great to have more hats represented with their sweat LOT numbers? I spent some time yesterday going through the older posts in the pre 1940s Stetson Western thread. There are so many fantastic hats posted there - I would love to have some of these represented.

I will be taking a week off during the holidays and I hope to find time to make a visual timeline of the hats we have posted. If we can add a bunch more and are lucky enough to find a few with known date provenance this could become a useful addition to the tools we have for dating old Stetson styles and marks.

I am really looking forward to your visual timeline! I think it will be interesting to see the variations in hat styles and trimmings through a span of time. It will be interesting to see how many features stayed the same as well.

I have looked through the Pre-1940's Stetson Western Thread in its entirety many times and I am always amazed at the incredible hats that have been posted. Unfortunately a similar problem exists in that thread as many others that I have gone through. In many of the early posts, the pictures are mostly of the hat and the liner, but not the reorder tags under the sweatband and possible markings under the sweatband. When I was looking for Hat Corp of America block numbers and Stetson block numbers, there were many hats I wanted to record in my record but unfortunately there were just no pictures of the re-order tags for many in the thread.