Stetson crest dating

[splintercellsz]

1910s/1920s Stetson "Special Twenty"

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[Terminator]

Hi all, as an Aussie I’m a newbie to the Stetson game. Am I correct in thinking this is nothing special and relatively modern?

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Hi all, as an Aussie I’m a newbie to the Stetson game. Am I correct in thinking this is nothing special and relatively modern?

Those US Imperial and Metric combination size tags came into use in the late 1970s or early 1980s. The paper tag looks even more recent. My very rough guess is 1990s or later.


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[Just Daniel]

The UPC/bar code is another clue.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Product_Code

Hi all, as an Aussie I’m a newbie to the Stetson game. Am I correct in thinking this is nothing special and relatively modern?

 

[Terminator]

@deadlyhandsome @Just Daniel Thanks gents! The search continues!

 

[Just Daniel]

What are you looking for? If you post in the classifieds some folks might know where to look or give you a quick hand.

All the best,
Daniel

@deadlyhandsome @Just Daniel Thanks gents! The search continues!

 

[Just Daniel]

Dinerman has this crest at the start of the thread, but there isn’t a lot of info. Anyone come across more dating points for it? It’s post-Chestnut St move.

 

[carouselvic]

Often store hats are date stamped on the back side of the sweat.

 

[alanfgag]

Often store hats are date stamped on the back side of the sweat.

If you’ve got a date stamp, that will be swell. You a have a keyhole size tag... I expect it will have metallic ink suggesting the hat is from the mid 1930s to the pre-war 1940s. Looking forward to your photos.

 

[Just Daniel]

What’s left on a paper crest on a brown bowler. I won’t get to the hat for a little while, but I have not seen this one around.

The sweat does not have a Stetson marking.

 

[BobHufford]

This “custom” stamping is a new one on me.

 

[Just Daniel]

Here is a Boss of the Plains I put over on the pre-40s Stetson Western thread. It has quite an interesting sweat crest.

 

[Just Daniel]

Stetson rounder, trademark applied for in 1935, first use in commerce 1930.

 

[Just Daniel]

This crest appears earlier on another hat made for the Canadian market. It appears here on a brown bowler.

There is no sweat stamp so I will have to work out a way to save the paper when it arrives. Any ideas?

 

[MikeinRome]

This is what I'm calling a 1940's Stetson 3X that I just won in eBay auction. The sweatband logo says Vita-Felt Process under logo. This logo or crest is sharply detailed and has thin, upright beaver instead of chubby, hunched over beaver. The liner crest matches these details, and both have stars instead of maple leaf. Don't know how many other hats on the Lounge have this Vita-Felt designation under the logo. My personal guess is that this hat is from the early part of the period when the satin liner with gold roundel was used. Opinions, anyone?

 

[MikeinRome]

Other tag from same hat.

 

[MikeinRome]

In the discussion about stars vs maple leaf in the Stetson crest or logo, which change took place around 1950 or so, the stars were later revived. Seems I've seen them on the sweatband of late 50's-early 60's Stetson 100 hats, and stars are seen in some hats in later years, but you can't confuse these later hats as being from the 1950 or earlier period unless you're not very familiar with Stetson hats.

 

[BobHufford]

Opinions, anyone?

Mike,

@alanfgag (Alan) ballparks the rondel sequence here:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...tems-of-interest.27695/page-1774#post-2797808

The red/white, single-cell inventory sticker ranged from approx. 1940 - 1952.

Yours could be 1940s, but from the later half of the decade.

Nice hat!

 

[MikeinRome]

Mike,

@alanfgag (Alan) ballparks the rondel sequence here:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...tems-of-interest.27695/page-1774#post-2797808

The red/white, single-cell inventory sticker ranged from approx. 1940 - 1952.

Yours could be 1940s, but from the later half of the decade.

Nice hat!

Thanks for the input, Bob.

 

[MikeinRome]

Thanks for the input, Bob.

Yes, Bob, I had reread this entire thread before posting about this new Stetson I acquired.