HarpPlayerGene
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You guys are real cut-ups.
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HarpPlayerGene said:You guys are real cut-ups.
jimmy the lid said:I think that the change on the crest from stars to a leaf in the upper left-hand field is probablyl the most telling feature. I honestly don't think the "hunched beaver" factor is a reliable factor as far as dating goes. As you note, Scott, you can see that the "hunched beaver" is present with the "stars" crest in 1948. Similarly, the features of the bird on the right side of the crest are all over the map over time.
Cheers,
JtL
rlk said:Unfortunately I can't copy the ebay photos and the auction ended july 14th.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280368617036#ht_870wt_1167
ScottF said:Actually, I think the beaver's back might be telling evidence, at least in regards to the sweatband logos.
Thanks, A little different for Macs but I worked it out,here they are.(I can explain how if there is interest)Lefty said:For the standard ebay layout, they've bundled the photos with all sorts of other stuff. If you really want the photo, you've got to do a bit more work now. When you're on the auction page, enlarge the photo, then right click and save as usual. Instead of just saving the image to your computer, it will save a folder will all sorts of junk + the photo. Just delete all the junk and upload to photobucket.
rlk said:Thanks, A little different for Macs but I worked it out,here they are.
Similarly 'view source' then highlight the first "http.........JPG." starting from the top and it will be the enlarged photo choice.ScottF said:Also a Mac user, I do 'view source', find 'jpg', then go to the 2nd-to-last group of 'jpg' files and pic the one in correct order. Not too painful.
GWD said:
rlk said:
rlk[/IMG said:This apparently transitional hat has a sweatband with the stars but the later liner crest. The hat has a very soft sweatband with onionskin beneath but has no factory markings stickers or stamps. Definitely high beaver content crown is reasonably soft and shapeable but very stiff western brim. Perhaps at the point of the switch to the Missouri Factory with mixed components(1971?).
ScottF said:If it occured in 1971, seems strange that they would use a pre-1952 sweatband (as stars would indicate) - that's a long time to save sweatbands.
Very interesting hat.
rlk said:This apparently transitional hat has a sweatband with the stars but the later liner crest. The hat has a very soft sweatband with onionskin beneath but has no factory markings stickers or stamps. Definitely high beaver content crown is reasonably soft and shapeable but very stiff western brim. Perhaps at the point of the switch to the Missouri Factory with mixed components(1971?).
ScottF said:Here are the details from three Open Roads I have. The first one is a Royal Deluxe (with no liner) that can be dated to 1950-53 by its OPS tag. The second one can be dated to pre-1951 because the owner died that year - also, it has the stars in the background. The third one has the leaf in the background, and plastic over the liner logo.
ScottF said:
jimmy the lid said:Scott -- the liner on that one (in addition to other factors) says mid-60's to me. The crest design on the liner may be a factor in helping to date lids, but it is just one thing to consider, I think. It is one piece of the puzzle.
Cheers,
JtL