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Stetson block profile numbers

Joshbru3

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UPDATED LIST (Effective 02-27-2014, 2:56pm Central time)

(Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
(Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
(Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
(Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
(Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
 

splintercellsz

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1920s Nutria

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1900s Expo

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Joshbru3

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UPDATED LIST (Effective 10-10-2014, 12:15pm Central time)

(Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
(Block Used: 50, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
(Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
(Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
(Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 587, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
 

Joshbru3

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UPDATED LIST (Effective 10-28-2014, 1:35pm Central time)

(Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
(Block Used: 50, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
(Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
(Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
(Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 587, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 751, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
 

Joshbru3

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UPDATED LIST (Effective 11-19-2014, 12:43am Central time)

(Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
(Block Used: 50, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 309, Labeled Height: 6)
(Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
(Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
(Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
(Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 587, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 751, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
 

Mystic

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UPDATED LIST (Effective 11-19-2014, 12:43am Central time)

(Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
(Block Used: 50, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 309, Labeled Height: 6)
(Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
(Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
(Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
(Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 587, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 751, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)

Josh, you certainly have stayed on top of this thread.

Have you been able to come to any conclusions from this info, other than determining and preserving the many different blocks that have been used?

With your knowledge of "all things Stetson" does this give you some insight that would not be obvious to the average hat wearer?

I think at one point you were hoping to match Block #s with photos to show the shape produced by each Block.
That would be quite a big undertaking seeing so many different #s.
 

Joshbru3

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Well, this info has taught me a couple of things......

Stetson used many different block numbers and profiles for their hats through the years and new ones keep popping up every day. One of my hopes is that one day a block will show up in an antique store or ebay with one of these block numbers on them. I know at one point Stetson was giving old blocks to their employees in the 20's to use as firewood, so that tells me that old blocks were permitted to leave the factory. Its my hope that not all of them have been burned through the years.

I have learned that some hats that we all know and love from Stetson used a particular block during their run. For example, the Stetson Playboy used a 123 block. That was "THE" playboy block, though through the years the crown height had changed. It appeared that the profile stayed the same on top. I have also learned that other blocks were made in varying crown heights, but similar profiles.

Its good info to collect because if there was ever a question as to the model name or type of Stetson hat that someone had, the block number could give a good insight into identifying that particular hat. Its just another tool in our toolbox for dating or identifying old Stetsons.
 

Mystic

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Well, this info has taught me a couple of things......

Stetson used many different block numbers and profiles for their hats through the years and new ones keep popping up every day. One of my hopes is that one day a block will show up in an antique store or ebay with one of these block numbers on them. I know at one point Stetson was giving old blocks to their employees in the 20's to use as firewood, so that tells me that old blocks were permitted to leave the factory. Its my hope that not all of them have been burned through the years.

I have learned that some hats that we all know and love from Stetson used a particular block during their run. For example, the Stetson Playboy used a 123 block. That was "THE" playboy block, though through the years the crown height had changed. It appeared that the profile stayed the same on top. I have also learned that other blocks were made in varying crown heights, but similar profiles.

Its good info to collect because if there was ever a question as to the model name or type of Stetson hat that someone had, the block number could give a good insight into identifying that particular hat. Its just another tool in our toolbox for dating or identifying old Stetsons.

Good Job, Detective. You have earned your Gold Shield for sure.
 

Joshbru3

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UPDATED LIST (Effective 01-19-2016, 3:44pm Central time)

(Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
(Block Used: 50, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 309, Labeled Height: 6)
(Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
(Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
(Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
(Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 587, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block Used: 644, Labeled Height: 6 1/4)
(Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 751, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
 

buler

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Josh, here are some I have from my billhead research.

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Block Model Dimensions Source

26 South 2 1/2 brim 1900 billhead

220 Pocket (5 X 2 1/2) 1892 billhead

328 Graeco (4 3/4 X 2 5/8) 1892/1900/1905 billhead

328 Xlnt 1892 billhead

352 model unknown 2 1/2 brim 1900 billhead

423 West 1892 billhead

447 Pocket Jr 1892 billhead

464 Voyage Soft 2 3/4 brim 1892 billhead

639 Caprice 1892 billhead

644 Montana 3 1/2 brim 1890/1892/1900 billhead

656 Basis 2 3/4 brim 1919 billhead

684 Austral 3 brim 1916 billhead

685 model/dimensions unknown 1890 billhead

699 Virginia dimensions unknown 1892 billhead

729 Mercury 2 5/8 brim 1919 billhead

821 R.R. 2 1/2 brim 1892/1900 billhead
 

Mighty44

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UPDATED LIST (Effective 01-19-2016, 3:44pm Central time)

(Block Used: 17, Labeled Height: 5 7/8)
(Block Used: 50, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 123, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 161, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 217, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block Used: 235, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 292, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 309, Labeled Height: 6)
(Block used: 312, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block used: 322, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 406, Labeled Height: 7)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 3/4)
(Block used: 424, Labeled Height: 4 5/8)
(Block Used: 427, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 494, Labeled Height: 6)
(Block used: 522, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block used: 522 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block used: 531 1/2, Labeled Height: 4 7/8)
(Block Used: 577, Labeled Height: 5 1/8)
(Block Used: 578, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 587, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 587 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 592, Labeled Height: 5)
(Block Used: 644, Labeled Height: 6 1/4)
(Block Used: 670, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 729, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 729 1/2, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)
(Block Used: 736, Labeled Height: 5 3/4)
(Block used: 751, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block used: 762, Labeled Height: 5 1/2)
(Block Used: 788, Labeled Height: 5 5/8)

Not following the format but just adding some Whippet specific info: I have twoWhippets—an early 1950s 2 3/4 brim, 5 1/2 crown is839. A later 1950s 2 1/2 brim, 5 1/2 brim is 723.
 

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