STETSON 7x CLEAR BEAVER QUALITY

[Tukwila]

Very nice find ! Can't wait to see more when you get it.

Does that type of Sweat with the ribbon through it have a name for it ? I've seen a few like that, but would like to know what it's called when researching.

I've asked the same question a dozen times... never an answer.

 

[Just Daniel]

It’s not any help, but I for one don’t know.

I have seen it called cotton tape slotting, but that is more of a description than a name.


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[AbbaDatDeHat]

Quasi-adjustable ribbon sweatband.
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[Hagwood]

You forgot “semi-pseudo” quasi......

 

[drmaxtejeda]

Some stressful negotiations went into this one, but now it’s on its way. I would guess this is a 40s hat. Early or late? I guess early, but who knows.

Andrew J Sardoni served in the PA State Senate from 27-38, but these guys call themselves Senator forever.

After reading through as much info here as I could find I can’t really establish a date for early CBs. I think Alan dates his 5X CBs to the 30s, and I have a 7X CB with a Vitafelt stamp (~42-47), but do we have better dates on the start of this line?

We’ll see what the reorder tags show upon delivery.

Woohoo!

PS So far a review of the Miller Stockman Catalog thread only lists 5X hats through 37-38.

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Daniel told me about this one... after he'd already bought it. [emoji1]

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[Frunobulax]

Quasi-adjustable ribbon sweatband.
B

Decoration.

 

[alanfgag]

Thanks Vic. I doubt this is all that close to the 20s, but 30s would obviously be a dream.

An interesting hat... look forward to your thoughts and photos when you receive it. Special makings like this are hard to date from the parts. The rondel would suggest post-war 1940s-1950s. The decorative perforated sweatband made a brief appearance in Stetson hats during the late 1930s-early 1940s and then again in the 1960s. Perhaps an older fancy sweatband was used to dress up this presentation hat. Keep us posted.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Andrew J Sardoni served in the PA State Senate from 27-38, but these guys call themselves Senator forever.

Someone else had a presentation hat to a PA governor a while back. As I recall it was a skinny ribbon Western Nutria. I don't recall the governors name however. I would imagine there were a lot of PA politicos who got presentation hats in the day.

 

[jlee562]

My 7xCB arrived, thank goodness for two day priority mail!






5 1/2" open crown, 3" brim

I was actually prepared to be underwhelmed with this example, as my Stetson 100 is also a 60's model. While it has a fine and soft hand, the felt somewhat stiff in terms of pliability. This hat has a stiff brim that held its shape during the trip despite literally zero packing material save for a plastic bag (at least this seller chose an adequately sized box). The crown on the other hand is very soft and has that clay-like feel. Simple two ply band treatment. There is a bit more roll in the brim than is to my tastes, definitely looks like a 60's hat. Nudging it back to what seems like the factory crease leaves it looking not unlike the modern pre-creased cattleman. Square black tag did not survive the trip intact in the hat. Long lost member Rodkins posted one with the same liner earlier in the thread. I assume these came after the gold crest liner as this design is still in use in some Hatco Stetsons. A generous size 7, as is my 100.

I think this one would do well for a full refurb. The sweat has popped a few stitches in the front, but seems salvageable. Some light staining, but even considering that I'll be sinking some more money into it, I am quite satisfied for a <$100 BIN.

 

[Just Daniel]

The Senator Sordoni 7X Clear Beaver arrived. A bit more stress. The sweatband was held in place by thick, double-sided tape. I tried carefully to remove it but still tore the red inventory tag. The red tag has three blocks for “Block Depth Finish,” which I believe is a 1930s tag.

The hat will eventually reach Ignacio for a cleaning; I may flip it inside out as well to hide two big moth bites and external stain.

Here are the pics, along with some of the original sale pics that are better than mine. I also included a pic of a quick dry telescope I put on to illustrate the malleability of the felt.

 

[drmaxtejeda]

Stetson 50 7X CB

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[Rmccamey]

Illegal in most countries! Excellent score, Max!

Stetson 50 7X CB

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[Hagwood]

Illegal in most countries! Excellent score, Max!

Ha ha, +1. Superb !!!

 

[drmaxtejeda]

Illegal in most countries! Excellent score, Max!

Thank you! I jumped at it.

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[deadlyhandsome]

I found this size 7 for sale online. It looks to be a 1960s hat. Seller is asking $120 plus shipping ($9.95 to me, so to you ???).

Send me a PM if you’re interested and I’ll connect you to the seller.

 

[Bamaboots]

 

[RossRYoung]

Yowza! Would you say you have a fav out of the 4, BB?

 

[Just Daniel]

Awesome.

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[Bamaboots]

Yowza! Would you say you have a fav out of the 4, BB?

I would, Ross and it's the 3x6 with the 3 ply ribbon, front left in the last pic. They're all great hats in their own right but that hat's dimensions rank among my favorites. The similarity in the finish of the hats is what i really enjoy. Super fine on all of them but IMO the Canadian has the softest, most malleable felt of the bunch and finished with a great attention to detail. All but the Canadian have stiff brims.

 

[RossRYoung]

I would, Ross and it's the 3x6 with the 3 ply ribbon, front left in the last pic. They're all great hats in their own right but that hat's dimensions rank among my favorites. The similarity in the finish of the hats is what i really enjoy. Super fine on all of them but IMO the Canadian has the softest, most malleable felt of the bunch and finished with a great attention to detail. All but the Canadian have stiff brims.

The 3x6 is beautiful, love the felt tone and ribbon on that one (especially on the last pic). Interesting point on the Canadian felt, thanks for the observations!