Smoke-free Hawaii

[MrBern]

ALOHA smoke free Hawaii

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20061218/ap_tr_ge/travel_trip_smokeless_hawaii

Will Hawaii's strict NoSmoking law affect tourism?

In Hawaii, only about 17 percent of adults smoke, the fourth-lowest rate in the nation, according to the state Health Department.

The Smoke-Free Hawaii Law bans smoking in all public places such as restaurants, bowling alleys, and malls, as well as airports.

Lighting up now in partially enclosed areas, bars and less than 20 feet from doorways and windows is illegal.

 

[Tomasso]

Will Hawaii's strict NoSmoking law affect tourism?

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No, the restrictions are the same as NY's and there's been no negative effect there.

 

[MrBern]

No, the restrictions are the same as NY's and there's been no negative effect there.

Does NY ban smoking 20 ft from a doorway or window?

 

[moustache]

Hooray!!

Good for Hawaii!!!

Here in Washington it has been a tremendous success!!! Just in my own place of employment,10 people have quit this foul and disgusting habit(no offense intended meant,just an opinion)!And they have ALL admitted to better health,more money and increased work output.
And facts show Washington has not shown negative effects.On the contrary,better health and less smelly smoke has proved a delight!!!

A tavern owner friend of mine has had a 20% increase in business since the ban.More non-smokers now eat at his pub and he couldn't be happier!!
It is a shame it took us over 100 years to get to this point though.
I lost all of my grandparents and great-grand parents to the effects of this.

I hope the country will go smoke free.Or at least Oregon next!
Seems Europe is finally headed that way as well.


JD in Vancouver,Wa

 

[Tomasso]

Does NY ban smoking 20 ft from a doorway or window?

I'm not sure what the exact distance is but would it make a difference if it was 10 ft. or 5 ft.?

 

[GOK]

What a fantastic idea! I wish we had this all over the UK too - I absolutely detest going to places and coming home stinking of smoke, not to mention having to breathe in foul and noxious fumes whilst out. I try to avoid smoky venues but sometimes I have to accept that I can't.

I wish it was banned on our streets too. What people do in their own homes is entirely up to them but I really don't see why those of us that choose not to smoke should be subjected to it outside. And we have enough of a litter problem over here as it is, without cigarette butts, packets and matchboxes contributing to it.

 

[scotrace]

Ohio's new ban is in effect. No smoking within 20 ft of a doorway. The result so far is a mountain of cigarette butts on the street 20 ft from every bar's doorway.

 

[GOK]

Ohio's new ban is in effect. No smoking within 20 ft of a doorway. The result so far is a mountain of cigarette butts on the street 20 ft from every bar's doorway.

Oh, that's not on. Perhaps you need the butt-police? [huh]

 

[Feraud]

Ohio's new ban is in effect. No smoking within 20 ft of a doorway. The result so far is a mountain of cigarette butts on the street 20 ft from every bar's doorway.

lol lol


So what does this say about "enforced morality"?
Apparently it serves the greater good to ban or tax people into better health. New Yorkers are getting their last taste of transfats as banning will occur in the next couple of years. Does anyone wonder why with all the available health information, litigation, and exposed cigarette company deceit, people cannot (or will not) choose to stop smoking on their own?

 

[Story]

Perhaps you need the butt-police? [huh]

[rim-shot]Insert punch-line of your choice here[/rim-shot] lol

 

[GOK]

I think your tags said it all there, Story!

lol lol lol

 

[Brian Sheridan]

Smoking

I'm in Pennsylvania and the state government copped out in letting us vote for a state-wide ban and left it up to the counties. I'm in Erie County and our County Council looks like it will pass a total ban which will set off tons of lawsuits. Bar owners are up in arms. Again, the laywers win.

I'm in favor of the ban with a couple of exceptions, like private clubs where the members can vote. I always say "the right to swing your arms ends at the tip of my nose." If you could hold that smoke inside, then there would not be a problem.

It makes me laugh though that in the period we all like smoking was "good" for you!

Ciao,

Brian

 

[Sefton]

So they finally put a cork in Kiluaea.

 

[MrBern]

I'm not sure what the exact distance is but would it make a difference if it was 10 ft. or 5 ft.?

Actually it makes a huge difference to businesses.
It means that bars & offices couldnt jsut let smokers congregate out front when they duck away for a smoke break.
it becomes a ticketable offense that no establishmnt appreciates.
A lot of bars have ashtrays stations out front to make it more smoker friendly. Cuts down on a plethora of butts in front of the place & develops a little 'scene' in front of popular bars as the smokers linger.

 

[MrBern]

lol lol


So what does this say about "enforced morality"?
Apparently it serves the greater good to ban or tax people into better health. New Yorkers are getting their last taste of transfats as banning will occur in the next couple of years. Does anyone wonder why with all the available health information, litigation, and exposed cigarette company deceit, people cannot (or will not) choose to stop smoking on their own?

Well people are addicted. Which is why some groups are so concerned about the availabiltiy of cigarettes to kids who may get hooked for life.
Kids scoff at the idea of not living forever....

 

[Tony in Tarzana]

Ohio's new ban is in effect. No smoking within 20 ft of a doorway. The result so far is a mountain of cigarette butts on the street 20 ft from every bar's doorway.

That saves having to carry a tape measure in one's cigarette case. lol

 

[Tomasso]

Actually it makes a huge difference to businesses.
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You asked if the ban would have an impact on Hawaiian tourism. I don't think there will be an adverse effect, no matter what distance is legislated.[huh]

 

[moustache]

Where i work,we have had complaints from customers about the smokers and will be fined if they continue to keep doing so in front of the main door.A bar can lose it's license if they don't follow the law.As for buttsut an ashtray 25 ft away.Or a sign showing where it is.Putting it at the front door does no good as it still breaks the law.
No matter how smokers hate the new law,it is still the law.And if it gets broken,people will pay the price.50 years ago drinking and driving was not illegal.Now it is and people pay the price in harmful ways.Eventually people will get over the initial shock and realise it was all for the good of the GREATER MAJORITY!!And considering that only 19% of the country smokes,that serves as a sign that things will change fast.

JD

 

[jamespowers]

Her we go. Let's ban it all so that the farmers out in North Carolina go broke, the government receives no tax money from it and everyone will be happy.
Then we can ban cars so that no one can drive drunk or hurt themselves in accidents. Ban hands and feet so thousands or people(more than the number of people killed by guns each year) will still be alive. Then we can ban big business so it reduces polution and we can all live in caves poluting the environment anyway with wood smoke from our fires. Hey, we'll be unemployed and broke but we sure feeeeellll goooodddd about ourselves and our do goodism---that's all that counts.
Yep, that prohibition thing worked really good when the nannies tried it.
How about we let people decide where they want to go. If the non smokers are so prevalent then wouldn't the marketplace simply decide rather than nanny government?

Regards,

J

 

[carebear]

As one might expect, I agree with Mr. Powers.

Where does it stop, this making people do what's "good" for them, on/in private property no less?

"Triumph of the majority" sounds great, until you're in the minority. What's your "socially unacceptable" habit? Think carefully, cause you're next on the hit parade, science or rights be damned.

Why not just make people responsible for themselves? If they don't like smoky bars, don't go in them and don't work for them. The owner's will get the picture, or not, sooner or later. In the meantime, start your own smoke-free businesses or patronize the existing ones. Let your dollars do the talking.

Not the weight of mob rule over private business owners.