Show us your TIES

[Retro Spectator]

Yesterday, I found 11 vintage ties at the thrift store.

Superbra: 54" Long 3" Wide. 50s/60s?

Red and Black Striped tie. Unmarked. 57" Long 2 1/2" Wide. 60s?

Tebilized Red Plaid: 51" Long 3" Wide. 50s/60s?

 

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Tebilized Blue/Green stripes: 51" Long 3" Wide. 50s/60s?

Unmarked Acetate Rayon Tie: 54" Long 2" Wide. 60s?

Van Heusen Original Custom Collection: 51" Long 2" Wide. 60s?

 

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Genung's Men's Shop. 53" Long 3" Wide. 50s/60s?

Mr. John Tie: Very Unusual Metal logo on back. 54" Long 2 1/2" Wide. 60s?

Bloomingdale's Prep Shop: Vintage boy's tie? 43 1/2" Long 2 1/2" Wide. 50s/60s?

 

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Brown Wool Tie: WWII Army Tie? 47" Long 4 1/2" Wide. 40s?

Plaid Woven Fringed Tie: 47" Long 3 1/2" Wide. 1920s?

 

[dh66]

Wow! You really cleaned house on that visit. Some fantastic finds in that lot. I really like the 50s Genungs. Great pattern. That red and grey plaid tebilized is a real knockout, too.

 

[BobHufford]

Dang R.S. -- you really had a great day! I agree that the Genung's is a favorite as is the plaid woven fringed in the last set.

I only found two last night ...

Jack Lord, 46" x 4":

Berkley-Knit, Full Fashioned Crochet, 57" x 2":

 

[dh66]

Nice finds, Bob!
That Jack Lord tie looks a lot older than Hawaii 5-0.

 

[Eddie Derbyshire]

Retro S - brilliant finds. Those Tebilized ones are really great. I have one the same label different pattern. Do yours have a course texture to them?

BobH - nice! Is that knit in nylon?

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[Retro Spectator]

Retro S - brilliant finds. Those Tebilized ones are really great. I have one the same label different pattern. Do yours have a course texture to them?

The red plaid one feels rather coarse. The blue and green one feels similar to grosgrain ribbon. The red one actually has silver glittery stripes on it.

Is Tebilized the company?

 

[Bamaboots]

Retro, great lot. Really like the pheasant tie.
Bob H, nice ones.

 

[BobHufford]

BobH - nice! Is that knit in nylon?

Eddie -- thanks. Not sure if it is nylon as it is not marked as such like this other Berkley-Knit out there.

 

[Eddie Derbyshire]

The red plaid one feels rather coarse. The blue and green one feels similar to grosgrain ribbon. The red one actually has silver glittery stripes on it.

Is Tebilized the company?

Cool thanks for the details. Tebilized is a process for non-creasing. Found on the British brand Tootal - but those aren't Tootal . If you ever get tired of them I'd be happy to buy them off you, or do a swap
You're getting good at spotting the vintage ones now RetroS!

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[Retro Spectator]

Cool thanks for the details. Tebilized is a process for non-creasing. Found on the British brand Tootal - but those aren't Tootal . If you ever get tired of them I'd be happy to buy them off you, or do a swap
You're getting good at spotting the vintage ones now RetroS!

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It seems the vintage ties tend to be way lighter than the modern strangulation ties. Modern ties are so heavy, they make you feel like you are being strangled.

Another thing that seems to help determine if a tie is vintage is that they tend to not have the fancy satin liner on the back.

 

[Eddie Derbyshire]

Very true. It's usually a mixture of factors. Eventually spotting them becomes so second nature that you can see them a mile off, without having to double check. Things can always surprise you though.

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[The Good]

Nice ties! I agree, after noticing those subtle details to everyone else, it becomes a lot easier to figure a tie's period of date. If not the decade, at least narrowing it down, being prior to such-and-such year.

Besides just the widths, I wonder when ties will next have such noticeable changes, like with the back liners or the blade shapes. Modern ties have been more or less very similar since the 1980s, with many similar details like very gradual to no taper on the blades, and thick interior liners, except for varying widths. The long length has been consistent. There do seem to be more ties sold in stores nowadays that are knit, wool, linen, or cotton, than there used to be, several years ago. I'd rather the state of ties become revolutionized, whatever that may represent, than just fade deeper into obscurity with people wearing the same usual designs, mostly. People don't have to follow fashions. Even if future trends means cravats/ascots (whether worn inside or outside one's shirt) supersede the popularity of what we usually refer to as normal ties, I'm fine. At least it gets people wearing something to fill in an otherwise plain suit or coat. I've worn a white silk scarf like a cravat or ascot, at times.

I do like currently fashionable widths, because I'm a fan of the later half of the 1950s and the 1960s (And a little of New Wave). I think modern wide ties would also look better with more taper, and incorporating more specifically early 20th century designs, not necessarily just one decade. Modern narrow ties could stand to be less plain than they usually are, and include more mid-century influences in patterns. Ties of any width could stand to be shorter, by about three or four-five inches less than the 58" standard. That would be more like '60s and '70s lengths, but it would also work with the way most trousers are made, most no higher than mid-rise. I'm 6'1" in height, so the bigger knots could still be tied for the tall, with the back end rakishly a bit shorter if visible and not put through the keeper. More varieties available and accepted would be nice, generally. If neckties are to be preserved for the next century, people should enjoy wearing ties more often, rather than just for weddings and funerals (or increasingly, not even for these), job interviews (often, the same point applies), and the relative few suit and tie uniform workplaces left (getting less and less).

Thankfully, I believe we're doing better in 2015, than 2005, with regard to the state of neckties. I do notice a little more young people in the cities and at university wearing ties.

 

[Eddie Derbyshire]

BobHufford - sorry I missed your post. Thanks for showing me. I've got this horrible springy Nylon one you see. My other knits are lovely, but I never seem to wear them for some reason.

The Good - I get your points, but I'm not so optimistic on the fate of the tie. I think it will be all but gone in the next 10/20 years. It's no longer a staple of even professional businessmen here in Britain. Open collars prevail :/

 

[The Good]

The Good - I get your points, but I'm not so optimistic on the fate of the tie. I think it will be all but gone in the next 10/20 years. It's no longer a staple of even professional businessmen here in Britain. Open collars prevail :/

Maybe. I'm quite a bit idealistic about all that, but people like us will continue wearing them!

 

[BobHufford]

Yup ... pigs.

Ralph Marlin, Robinson's Racing Pigs, 100% polyester, 56" x 3", 1989.

 

[dh66]

Cool!

 

[Bamaboots]

Nice. I like me some pork.