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[Rathdown]

I have a question for you gun experts.
I have only ever had an old farmers percussion cap shotgun and had a go with a Remington pump on a range so am a bit of a know nothing about handling guns.
OK, there is a new film out with Mel Gibson, as with many films these days the actor 'Fires' his pistol holding it sideways rather than butt downward. Is this a movie makers piece of fiction or does using an automatic pistol in this way have any standing in the use of firearms

Theoretically either style should work; in the real world however, better accuracy and cycling of the firearm occur when the pistol is held in the traditional manner. Believe me, if shooting "Hollywood style" was any good, it would have been adopted by shooters long ago.

 

[rocketeer]

Rocketeer, Hollywood started using that after seeing SWAT entry teams use that style, but it designed for guys carrying an armored entry shield, so they can see through the view slot on the shield. Otherwise, it is just "Hollyweird" showing their usual incompetence when it comes to firearms.

Theoretically either style should work; in the real world however, better accuracy and cycling of the firearm occur when the pistol is held in the traditional manner. Believe me, if shooting "Hollywood style" was any good, it would have been adopted by shooters long ago.

Thanks for both answers, I never knew about the SWAT team tactics so thats a new angle for me, my guess at Hollywood style use proved correct.
Over here our firearms laws prohibit the collecting of some real classic pistols & rifles etc. As a young boy I once had a long barrelled Luger but swapped it for some other thing as it was not a 'cowboy' gun. That would have been a banned item today, granddads old war souvenirs are still being handed in by little old ladies during weapons amnesties.
Thanks again, John

 

[bulldog1935]

hey, we're on page .357

 

[KilroyCD]

Once again I pop in with another antique British rifle. This time it's a P-1864 Snider I picked up at the IMA Easton, PA showroom on 29 September. This was one of their "untouched" rifles from the Nepalese cache, in "as found" condition. First, the "before" pics:

Once the 130+ years of dried grease and grime were cleaned off, this was the result:

The bluing on the barrel was in decent shape, and the bore is pristine. The stock cleaned up nicely, and only had a couple of small hairline cracks I needed to tend to. All in all, it was a real diamond in the rough.

 

[Maj.Nick Danger]

That's excellent. :eusa_clap Can you get ammunition for it? Also, does IMA sell online? I can't get to PA any time soon, but I'd love to buy some of those amazing historical pieces come up with.

 

[KilroyCD]

That's excellent. :eusa_clap Can you get ammunition for it? Also, does IMA sell online? I can't get to PA any time soon, but I'd love to buy some of those amazing historical pieces come up with.

Yes, IMA does sell online (www.IMA-USA.com), and it is possible to load ammunition for it (.577 Snider) using 24-gauge brass as the basis for custom loads. Here's a link to a thread on the British Militaria Forum about such a load: http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku....s--577---IMA-Snider---time--dies#.UHZMW280WSo

 

[DeaconKC]

Kilroy, that cleaned up beautifully. How did the bore turn out?

 

[BigFitz]

hey, we're on page .357

Nice 686. How's she handle with those Magna-style grips?

And since it is page 357, here's another.

Firing her with the service grips from the '20's on her wasn't as much fun as it looked.

 

[KilroyCD]

Kilroy, that cleaned up beautifully. How did the bore turn out?

The bore is pristine. It almost looks as though it had never been fired.

 

[Hunter_aka_Scotty]

The bore is pristine. It almost looks as though it had never been fired.

SCORE!!!! That is a beautiful rifle. My wife and I were debating on getting one only a couple of nights ago.

 

[DeaconKC]

Big Fitz, try putting a Tyler T grip adapter on that 27, it makes a huge difference! plus you keep the original looks.

 

[bulldog1935]

Nice 686. How's she handle with those Magna-style grips?

And since it is page 357, here's another.

Firing her with the service grips from the '20's on her wasn't as much fun as it looked.

I've never liked the checkered Smith grips, and tried Hogue for awhile. They grip great, and work even better with the speedloader, and even though I have long fingers, they just felt too long for me. I replaced them with water buffalo horn target grips, and love these.

Your 28 is a beauty.

 

[The Inspector]

I didn't notice the vented rib and DW medallion at first, my bad.
A beautiful firearm, does it have the interchangeable barrels?

It does, sadly I only have the 6v and the 2 1/2 VH barrel for it. But it came with the paper work and styrofoam box with cover so I'm happy!

 

[BigFitz]

Big Fitz, try putting a Tyler T grip adapter on that 27, it makes a huge difference! plus you keep the original looks.

I do plan on putting a Tyler T grip on it at some point. I've replaced the old service grips in the photo with a pair of "correct" Magnas and that made a big difference over the service grips. With the service grips, after a few rounds it felt like I was being hit in the hand with a hammer. With the Magnas, not so much.

 

[BigFitz]

I've never liked the checkered Smith grips, and tried Hogue for awhile. They grip great, and work even better with the speedloader, and even though I have long fingers, they just felt too long for me. I replaced them with water buffalo horn target grips, and love these.

Your 28 is a beauty.

Those grips sure are purty!

Thanks for the compliment, she's a bit rougher looking in person. I'm not trying to be a wise guy, but technically she's a S&W Model of 1950 357 magnum, more commonly referred to(but not an offical name) as a pre-27. One of these days I'm going to get off my duff and have this pistol lettered from the S&W factory historian. There is a name engraved just above the trigger, "Fred Eggers" that googles as a hollywood writer of '50's and '60's tv westerns, but of course that doesn't mean it's his. If it letters to him, I'm also hoping that the engraving was done by Alvin White, but now I'm really pipe dreaming.

 

[matrioshka]

At this rate, I'm going to be putting cardboard in my shoes...

Oh look, a box. Feller says it's a Model 34:

Looks like there's some paper inside:

Looks like a Model 34, or is it? The frame seems a little odd...

It's a pre-model 43. A Kit Gun with an aluminum frame and cylinder. And a flat latch to boot. Still has the warranty card. This is only the second one I've seen in 16 years.

Back then I was a broke you-know-what floor sweeper/dogsbody for a transmission shop. He wanted $190 for it, it could have been $1900 as far as I was concerned. What made it worse was that he wouldn't take a $100 deposit to hold it for two days. "Ah well", I said to myself, "I'll find another". Didn't think it would take sixteen years.

The moral of this story: Strike when the iron's hot, even if you have to sell something else (like blood, if need be). And if a man's so paranoid he won't take a hundred dollar deposit for two days, then maybe it isn't worth it to do business with him.

 

[BigFitz]

Oh look, a box. Feller says it's a Model 34:
It's a pre-model 43. A Kit Gun with an aluminum frame and cylinder. And a flat latch to boot. Still has the warranty card. This is only the second one I've seen in 16 years.

Back then I was a broke you-know-what floor sweeper/dogsbody for a transmission shop. He wanted $190 for it, it could have been $1900 as far as I was concerned. What made it worse was that he wouldn't take a $100 deposit to hold it for two days. "Ah well", I said to myself, "I'll find another". Didn't think it would take sixteen years.

The moral of this story: Strike when the iron's hot, even if you have to sell something else (like blood, if need be). And if a man's so paranoid he won't take a hundred dollar deposit for two days, then maybe it isn't worth it to do business with him.

Maybe he has dyslexia? When you mentioned the cardboard for your shoes, for a moment I thought you were referring to the box in your post! Then I thought "there's no way he meant that box"

Anyway, nice find there!

 

[matrioshka]

Thank you.

It's a neat thing. I see a lot of older Smiths, but nothing like this.

But yeah, he thought it was a regular Model 34.

I'm shocked at what people want for just the box.

 

[bulldog1935]

...
I'm shocked at what people want for just the box.

not really that surprising. In collecting, after 100 years, the original packing is usually worth more than the item.
The box for a pre-Civil War fishing lure sold at auction for $12,000.

 

[KilroyCD]

My latest find, a Winchester M1 Carbine.