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[Diamondback]

Need an opinion from y'all on something. I'm looking at a Nelson 58H shoulder-holster for my 1911 (if you remember the Untouchables' holsters, it's the same basic model), but need a color-selection to fit two different basic wardrobes: my everyday look is overall khaki with a brown or black coat, but I'm not up for buying a whole second holster to go with my suit, which is black. Would y'all say I should go with dark brown, cordovan or black to fit these needs? (I don't see Light Brown or "Natural" working too well.

 

[Michael Carter]

I've been collecting Walther firearms for around 20 years now. The collection has thinned a bit due to the economy, but models will eventually be replaced.
I no longer have several of my P.38's, P88, nor my MI6 007 P99. That one I'll never see again as they didn't make many before Walther received a cease and desist letter from Eon Productions.

Anyway, what I have left:

Walther Model 7 I restored several years ago:

Walther Model 4. These are practically a dime a dozen on the collector market, but still a nice small example of Walther's earlier work. The grips are not original to this example. They should be on a model with a lanyard ring on the heel.

A Dutch Police Walther PP with the factory replacement slide, no signal pin. This came with documentation and all of the accessories as issued to the Dutch police. This model with the factory replacement slide was limited to only a couple of hundred pistols. There is no serial number roll maked on this slide, but instead is etched into the underside. The slides on these models were replaced due to frame galling from using a +P ammunition favored by the Dutch police at the time. The slide was not heavy enough for the momentum generated by the P+ ammo. It was decided to eliminate the signal pin and associated machinework thereby increasing the weight of the slide. The recoil spring is also noticeably heavier on these models.

Walther P5

Developed from the P.38/P1 after the '72 Munich Olympics. The PP Super was the interim pistol during this time (don't have this model any longer either), but did not work out as expected using the 9mm Police or Ultra round. The P5 was designed to replace both the PP and PP Super. It is a redesigned P.38.

Interestingly, The SIG-Sauer P-225 was the P6 and of course the H&K P7 was the last of the police pistols in these pistol trials conducted by the German police. All three handguns were adopted by various police agencies throughout Germany. Baden-Württemberg and Bavaria saw the most use of the P5.

Walther P1

Ex-Bundeswehr service sidearm.

Walther P99 2nd Variation

Argentine Hi-Power

Built under license from Browning in Argentina for the Argentine armed forces and police. Filled with Cylinder & Slide aftermarket parts and micarta slim grips. I installed the sights after dovetailing the rear of the slide. Front sight is staked.

Magazine safety has been disconnected (never liked those and the same goes for the S&W models) and trigger is 3.5 lbs, no creep, no take-up.

FN Browning Model 1922, WaA140

Most common of the war time 1922's, rough machining is evident as the metal was literally hacked off of a slab much like the late war P.38's were from Spreewerk and Mauser. Functional but not pretty.

A pair of Mausers and a 42M Mossberg .22 training rifle.

The closer Mauser is an un-issued 1956 Turk model. The father Mauser is a 43 bcd and is from two rifles.

Austrian StG.58

I built this rifle from a brand new Austrian parts kit. I don't think it had ever seen a round down the barrel except for proofing after manufacture. The kit is assembled on an Ibel receiver and contains the required seven domestic parts.

This is the nicest 7.62mm rifle I've owned. I've had G3's and '91's, M1's, etc, but this is my favorite in terms of reliability, ergronomics, and accuracy.

 

[1961MJS]

Hi

I'd suggest either black, cordovan, or dark brown in that order. Black is the presence of all color (which is why it's black) so it matches everything else. Cordovan is a color that is neither brown nor black, but complements both. Dark Brown is close enough to black for government work.

On the other hand, it's a concealed (right?) shoulder holster, so who cares what color it is? No one is supposed to see it until you shoot them, so even if it's hot pink it won't matter for long...

Just my $0.02.

 

[Undertow]

Need an opinion from y'all on something. I'm looking at a Nelson 58H shoulder-holster for my 1911 (if you remember the Untouchables' holsters, it's the same basic model), but need a color-selection to fit two different basic wardrobes: my everyday look is overall khaki with a brown or black coat, but I'm not up for buying a whole second holster to go with my suit, which is black. Would y'all say I should go with dark brown, cordovan or black to fit these needs? (I don't see Light Brown or "Natural" working too well.

If you don't want the natural color, I say go black. But I'm a little biased as I love just about anything tactical looking. lol

 

[Undertow]

I've been collecting Walther firearms for around 20 years now. The collection has thinned a bit due to the economy, but models will eventually be replaced....

What caliber is that FN Browning Model 1922, WaA140? That barrel is interesting.

I really like the Austrian StG.58 - is that auto, burst or semi? (looks auto) And is it 7.62x39 or higher?

 

[Michael Carter]

The Browning is 7.65mm or .32 ACP.

The semi- and auto StG.58's are identical in appearance. The same as an AR-15 would be. Mine is a semi-auto cal 7.62x51mm/.308.

The difference is in the fire control group and the internal machining of the lower receiver. Full auto fire control group parts will not fit in a semi-auto receiver, nor will semi-auto fire control group parts fit an a fully automatic receiver. When these kits are sold to build a semi-auto rifle from, the fully automatic lower receiver is cut in two or more pieces. A semi-auto receiver must be purchased and the semi-auto fire control group must be purchased. These four parts count as part of the required seven US made parts.

 

[Diamondback]

Undertow, my thinking was also to ensure I wouldn't class sartorially in "Open Carry" environments, like traveling in the Southwest/South and leaving the A-2 in the car due t. heat-issues. Dounds like dark-brown might be the best "compromise", especially if I'm looking at Dual-Purposing it for reenacting. (Is it plausible that an officer might wear a privately-owned holster in the field?)

Thanks!

 

[up196]

Undertow, my thinking was also to ensure I wouldn't class sartorially in "Open Carry" environments, like traveling in the Southwest/South and leaving the A-2 in the car due t. heat-issues. Dounds like dark-brown might be the best "compromise", especially if I'm looking at Dual-Purposing it for reenacting. (Is it plausible that an officer might wear a privately-owned holster in the field?)

Thanks!

Here is a "Mason City Detective" wearing a Nelson Holster in natural with a dark suit. Judge for yourself how it looks:

Coat off http://publicenemiesof1934.shutterfly.com/3259

Coat on http://publicenemiesof1934.shutterfly.com/3462

 

[gholla]

nice

 

[Undertow]

I know it's been talked about on other forums, but did anyone have a chance to see the piece on CNBC regarding the Remington 700?

I have a 700 ADL .30-06, which I've ownded for about four years. Unfortunately, I haven't even put 100 rounds through it yet. I can honestly say I haven't had an experience like the one described on the segment, but I certainly would worry if this were even 1% of the overall experiences with these weapons. Anyone else care to expand or provide anectdotal evidence?

 

[Michael Carter]

I have only recently heard of this problem with the 700. I had a 700 BDL .308 years ago, but never experienced this 'problem' before. But I'm not one to move the safety between safe and fire and then pull the trigger and either continue to the fire position or return it to the safe position.

I used to manage a gun range and firearms store and sold many of these rifles. I never had one complaint and never heard any complaints from the boys down the street at the other store either.

 

[Michaelshane]

 

[shortbow]

Undertow, I saw that piece and immediately alerted all my friends and family members. I also once upon a time worked in the gun biz and only heard of this once or twice, but I take the evidence presented in that doc as evidence enough. When even the inventor tried to get them to change the design and both Army and INS shooters are dropping the gun...

Put it this way.... I WILL NEVER OWN ANOTHER REMINGTON FIREARM. They could bring out a hand made SLE double rifle of Holland and Holland quality for 10 bucks and I wouldn't buy it. This kind of corporate malfeasance needs to be punished to the utmost degree possible.

 

[lostinperiphery]

recently picked up this 1960 model 10. It was, at one point, apparently a service revolver for a raleigh police officer. It has a good bit of blueing wear, and came with some cheap, oversize rubber grips on it. I replaced those with the walnut grips shown here, likely off of a 1920's-ish pre-model10 I picked up on ebay and had to jerry-rig a new screw and 'nut' into the grips. granted, the grips aren't like the magna grips that would've originally come on this model 10, but this configuration allows me to have a fun 'beater' .38 that approximately resembles a wartime smith and wesson ... I like it!

as an added bonus, it looks nice alongside my indiana jones crap hahaha

 

[1961MJS]

Hi

You might want to read this:

http://remington700.tv/pdf/Remington10-29-10.pdf

I'm an NRA Rifle Instructor and Coach (both certifications). Even if the gun goes off with the safety on and the trigger not being pulled, the "Golden Rule of Gun Safety" (keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction) means that no one will get hurt (except maybe your ear drums). I own a Remington 700 and would buy more. The trigger works great.

Later

 

[Undertow]

Hi

You might want to read this:

http://remington700.tv/pdf/Remington10-29-10.pdf

I'm an NRA Rifle Instructor and Coach (both certifications). Even if the gun goes off with the safety on and the trigger not being pulled, the "Golden Rule of Gun Safety" (keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction) means that no one will get hurt (except maybe your ear drums). I own a Remington 700 and would buy more. The trigger works great.

Later

I hope everyone sees this; especially people new to guns. This is so important, you can't stress it enough. Even IF the 700 has issues discharging, Mike is right - keep that thing pointed in a safe direction! I think some of the injuries and deaths people have reported could have been prevented, and it goes to show just how serious the end of a gun is in ANY direction, at ANY time. Safeties, triggers, bolts - these are all mechanical parts that can fail, or work incorrectly. Thus, you cannot rely on them to protect your life, or someone elses in the event of a mistake.

On the other hand Mike, have you had any experience with this "misfire" incident? I know I haven't, but I've only pt about 100 rounds through my 700 .30-06.

 

[Undertow]

Undertow, I saw that piece and immediately alerted all my friends and family members. I also once upon a time worked in the gun biz and only heard of this once or twice, but I take the evidence presented in that doc as evidence enough. When even the inventor tried to get them to change the design and both Army and INS shooters are dropping the gun...

Put it this way.... I WILL NEVER OWN ANOTHER REMINGTON FIREARM. They could bring out a hand made SLE double rifle of Holland and Holland quality for 10 bucks and I wouldn't buy it. This kind of corporate malfeasance needs to be punished to the utmost degree possible.

I agree to the end that I believe Remington is aware there is/was a problem, and I don't believe they have addressed it thoroughly enough (for one reason or another). Even without taking that report at face value, the fact that ANY rifles may malfunction so easily due to a simple mechanical problem is enough for me to second guess the firearm, and the company. When it comes to firearms, I want to ensure that everything is as tip-top as possible, or I won't make a purchase. It's one (of many) reason I've stayed away from cheaper models like Taurus. I've seen and owned their craftsmanship, and it's sorely lacking.

 

[1961MJS]

I agree to the end that I believe Remington is aware there is/was a problem, and I don't believe they have addressed it thoroughly enough (for one reason or another). Even without taking that report at face value, the fact that ANY rifles may malfunction so easily due to a simple mechanical problem is enough for me to second guess the firearm, and the company. When it comes to firearms, I want to ensure that everything is as tip-top as possible, or I won't make a purchase. It's one (of many) reason I've stayed away from cheaper models like Taurus. I've seen and owned their craftsmanship, and it's sorely lacking.

You may note that they mention (again and again and...) that UNALTERED Remington 700 Triggers and safeties don't malfunction. Most of us work on our triggers (I didn't on mine, but it's one of two that I didn't) so that they're lighter. If you want a trigger pull less than say 3 pounds, you need to buy an after market trigger. The 700 trigger can be lightened a little, but mine is/was o.k. out of the box. They're probably being 100% truthful, as far as they go. In general, if you send a gun to any manufacturer for repair, they will send it back in "as manufactured" condition, so if you had a gunsmith lighten the trigger, it will show up back at 6 pounds.

I kind of doubt that the Army will seriously consider dropping the 700 unless they drop it for the Savage with Accu trigger. The Accu trigger is a lot lighter and somewhat safer. The Marines (definitely, they write about it) and other government agencies mess with their triggers too.

later

 

[DesertDan]

IMHO If a person does not have the FOUR RULES memorized then they have no business even handling a gun.
I made all my children memorize them and they have to recite them before they are allowed to unpack the guns at the range, in the field or at home to be cleaned.

 

[1961MJS]

Hi

NRA, 4H, and BSA all teach three: 1. Always point the gun in a safe direction (GOLDEN RULE); 2. Always leave a gun unloaded until you're ready to shoot; and 3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot. Even though anyone with a carry permit disobeys number 2 regularly it works very well on the firing line.

Later