dr.velociraptor
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I don't think anyone says that the felt fusing wasn't in the jackets, but were the hides less than 1.2 - 1.4 mm on their cycle jackets?
I don't think anyone says that the felt fusing wasn't in the jackets, but were the hides less than 1.2 - 1.4 mm on their cycle jackets?
With the felt backing...probably not.
Hmm...don't think so dr. velocirapter...
I had several Schott perfectos in the '60s and '70s(heavy steer)...then bought another around 2000...and my last one (horsehide) about three years or so ago. I never noticed the spongy backing until the last two...and I sold them on. Even Tommer commented how thin the actual hide was after he ripped out the fused felt. Guess after customers raised hell..Schott discontinued the felt(why they ever started using it...or how long they used it...I have no idea!). Now Schott hides seem to be of substancial weight similar to what they once were..without the backing.
HD
I think that you are missing the point.
Schott's hide 'with the backing fused onto the thin hide' made it 'thick' enough for a MC jacket...but gave the 'hide' a more spongy plasticlike appearance compared to the natural grainy hide that they onced used..and now use. After someone noticed the 'backing'...underneath the lining..they realized what was causing that different look. What does have bearing is that Tommer was one of the first to investigate and then complain..then others expressed WTH. Evidentally the actual thin steerhide/horsehide..minus the fused felt encouraged a change back to please the customer. It doesn't take a caliper..or even a genius to pull the fused or glued felt off of the actual hide and then realize it wasn't near as thick as it seemed...except for the fiber padding. To me..Tommer did prove it..along with inspection of my jackets..I had no doubt .
HD
Well..Tommer stated it about his Schott jacket(and also others on Schott's forum). I had two jackets with the fused fiber backing. So I did 'touch it'...and examine it. I also have Aero's...Vanson...and vintage HH MC jackets that have no 'fused fiber' backing. No need for it with a normal weight hide. I suggest you read/reread Tommers posts on the link I provided...or just dismiss what you don't want to hear. Makes little difference.
HD
Whatever,
Who cares.
I know what I had..
You don't.
I'm sure your new one is as it should be. So get a grip.[huh]
HD
Hi gents
I own one of these jackets in XL, worn for about two weeks before I decided it was too big, it's in excellent condition. If anyone is interested in buying I'll sell for £200 + postage or make an offer. PM me if interested.
Here are some pics I took when I was going to put it on ebay but never got round to it.
http://s791.photobucket.com/albums/yy197/D97x7/Schott/