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Rising crime- what are your theories?

Rosie

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Lincsong said:
When I went to junior high in the seventh grade Wood I and Metal I was offered. It was basic hand tools and such. Once those were completed then Wood II and Metal II were offered and we go to use; a lathe, bandsaw, foundry, arc welder. In high school more advanced classes were offered. Now, in the same school district none of that is offered and there is a 13% drop out rate. There was a topica thread about the school district and I participated and the teachers were the most clueless people I have ever encountered.

This is what I would like to see returned to schools. These are skills that can be use to attain employment.

Lincsong- The child was sent for testing and evaluation over the summer. There should be answers soon.
 

Rosie

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jamespowers said:
I think you are nailing it . Everyone is looking to government for a solution but the solution begins at home. I was just talking to a counselor at the local high school today. She said that by the time they get children in for counseling the parents have no idea why their children are having problems with behavior. Her response: Well, they just didn't get that way overnight. Obviously you were missing something. :rolleyes: :eusa_doh:
They just don't take the time out of their day to sit down with their children and find out how the day went. When they get a note from the school about their child's behavior, they blame the teachers. That begins at home not at school. Manners begins there, tact begins there, self-control begins there etc., etc.
Check out the crime statistics for the worst period of economic plight we ever had---the Great Depression. Were there run away crime waves all over the streets with store windows being broken into for food and other supplies? No. Poverty therefore doesn't necessarily breed crime. That period proves it. What was different?
Well, just about everything. Parents were VERY interested in what their children were doing, who they were doing it with and they might even call or go over to their child's friend's house to talk to the parents. Good luck in getting away with saying you were with so and so because they would just call or go over and make sure of it.
Perform poorly in school? Your parents were going to be all over you like a wet blanket. Poor grades led to less priviledges such as going out alone or with friends. If they had iPods and TVs then you would be lucky to have four bare walls after receiving poor grades.
Lie to a parent? Good luck again. They would know what you did before you had a chance to tell the fib. Then you would get it again. If your parents had a basement you might end up there for a prolonged period of time. My aunt always mentioned the fourlegged belt as well. :eek:
End up in jail or in trouble with the law? Man you were really out of luck. Do you think they would come bail you out ASAP? No way. "You got yourself in, you get yourself out." They might check it out behind the scenes to make sure you did what they said you did but you were still in jail. That was scared straight before the TV show existed and it tended to work. :eek:
I can go on and on through the list but you get the idea. Parents in those days had no illusion about wanting to be their child's buddy or friend. They were parents. If the child didn't like them for disiplining them they weren't going to die over it. They presented a united front and the children towed the line or ended up getting a correction one way or the other. They could have had ADD, ADHD and ten other disorders but they were going to act like human beings and not like monkeys. I remember being REALLY mad at my parents at times. It never made any difference. In fact, carrying on made it worse. :eusa_doh: You took the punishment---whatever it was and that was it because you deserved it. :D
I am sure there are good parents out there but there are probably just as many on the other side. We can all make a difference without government lifting one finger if we tend to our own families first. :eusa_clap

Regards,

J

I agree with you. You make some true and excellent points. I don't know. Can it just be that there are some people who are just going to be criminals? Just with the way the world works, not EVERYONE can be "good". Maybe there is no solution and this is just the way things have to be. I don't know. :(
 
Rosie said:
I agree with you. You make some true and excellent points. I don't know. Can it just be that there are some people who are just going to be criminals? Just with the way the world works, not EVERYONE can be "good". Maybe there is no solution and this is just the way things have to be. I don't know. :(

They wouldn't be criminals with my father. Either you be an upstanding members of society or end up under ground. Faced with such choices the decision was easy for me. :p ;)

Regards,

J
 

Section10

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I can remember that when the teacher would get a little rough with me in school occasionally, the absolutely last people in the world that I would ever want to find out about it were my parents because I knew if they did I would get the same thing only twice as bad all over again.lol lol
 
Section10 said:
I can remember that when the teacher would get a little rough with me in school occasionally, the absolutely last people in the world that I would ever want to find out about it were my parents because I knew if they did I would get the same thing only twice as bad all over again.lol lol

Amen to that. :eusa_clap Now they give them a referal and they scamper down the hall to the principal where they probably serve tea and watercress sandwiches as a reward. :eusa_doh: :rolleyes:

Regards,

J
 

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