Pre 1940s dress hats

[Garrett]

1930's J.C. Penny Marathon (not mine)

 

[M Hatman]

Early 30's Langenberg Hat Company "Lion Hats" fedora.......a bit mothie, but I really like it. Outside of the moth activity it is quite pristine.....
M

 

[M Hatman]

Standard Quality Stetson......
M

 

[M Hatman]

1938 Portis "Hunter"

A recent acquisition from @buler (thanks, Bill). Originally posted in the Portis thread 10 years ago here is a much belated encore:

Wonderfull!!

 

[mayserwegener]

Anton Peschel Neutitschein, 57 cm, 140 grams, possibly later 1920s. This is the only (and one other on FL) complete branded APN Stiff or Soft Felt Hat I have so a very rare find. The felt is very similar to JHS Stiff Felts but that makes sense because they were very close neighbors. I really like the dimensions + form and it actually fits so that is an added bonus.

Natural Light

 

[mayserwegener]

J. Hückel´s Söhne "Superior" probably 1930s. The felt is great and easily dry creases. The sweatband was replaced and the ribbon / bow wasn't reapplied properly but other than that the it's in good condition. I really like the form and dimensions.

Open Crown

Natural Light

 

[ofcoursemyhorse]

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

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I did gasp when i saw the sheen of this one!!
Is this considered a melusine felt and or finish??
Gorgeous!
Bowen

 

[mayserwegener]

I did gasp when i saw the sheen of this one!!
Is this considered a melusine felt and or finish??
Gorgeous!
Bowen

Melusine is not a term used in that time (at least for Men's Hats). It's Soleil Velour** like but not sure what processes it went through. Real Velour in the German / Austrian sense required Wild Hare plus Hot Wet Brushing during Felting. You can read more here.

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/216-hair-velour-real-echter-velour-prime-prima-velour-fabrikation-von-damen-und-herren-filzhüten-der-deustchen-hutmacher-zeitung-1933/

** The unclipped (unshorn) velour hair is called “Flamand”, in this case the hair is long, undulated, soft and glossy as it reflects a lot of light. When the tips are clipped off and the hair is ironed all around or from top to bottom one talks about “Soleil”. Most difficult is the production of Upright “Open” Velour because in this case a particular tightness (or density?) and sturdiness of the hair is necessary and it is significantly harder to produce the same amount of gloss as where an entire, smooth surface displays. (This is from above article.)

This is more of an Upright "Open" Velour.

M.W.B. Stolzf. Luxury Velour

This one the hair length is slightly longer and amazing quality.

JHS Superior Crystall Velour

 

[M Hatman]

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I did gasp when i saw the sheen of this one!! Gorgeous!

ME TOO.....same gasp!!!! WOW!!!

 

[splintercellsz]

early 20s Knox "twenty" long-hair

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[Frunobulax]

early 20s Knox "twenty" long-hair

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Damn, Skippy! Let me know when you get tired of that one.

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[AbbaDatDeHat]

early 20s Knox "twenty" long-hair

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Exceptional Justin!

 

[Garrett]

early 20s Knox "twenty" long-hair

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Is there a "clear beaver" stamp at the front of the sweatband? Here's mine for comparison

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/pre-1940s-dress-hats.42884/page-44#post-2524863

 

[splintercellsz]

Is there a "clear beaver" stamp at the front of the sweatband? Here's mine for comparison

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/pre-1940s-dress-hats.42884/page-44#post-2524863

sadly, there isn't

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[Garrett]

sadly, there isn't

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Bummer. Was hoping we could confirm beaver content to all "20" models of this era.

 

[Mean Eyed Matt]

JHS Sigma - Seal Velour - grey with black ribbon - late 30s (?) - size 5 (57)
This is the best/finest velour I've ever held in my hands!

open crown

inside: unusual lining in purple and white (unfortunately a bit worn out)

grey sweatband with golden print

Hückel Logo on the lining

Logo of the seller: "Ortmann - Spandau" (since 1920 part of Berlin)
(at least until 1941 at the same address)

labels (unfortunately, a piece of foam sticks over it, which cannot be removed without damaging the rest)

 

[Cornshucker77]

Melusine is not a term used in that time (at least for Men's Hats). It's Soleil Velour** like but not sure what processes it went through. Real Velour in the German / Austrian sense required Wild Hare plus Hot Wet Brushing during Felting. You can read more here.

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/216-hair-velour-real-echter-velour-prime-prima-velour-fabrikation-von-damen-und-herren-filzhüten-der-deustchen-hutmacher-zeitung-1933/

** The unclipped (unshorn) velour hair is called “Flamand”, in this case the hair is long, undulated, soft and glossy as it reflects a lot of light. When the tips are clipped off and the hair is ironed all around or from top to bottom one talks about “Soleil”. Most difficult is the production of Upright “Open” Velour because in this case a particular tightness (or density?) and sturdiness of the hair is necessary and it is significantly harder to produce the same amount of gloss as where an entire, smooth surface displays. (This is from above article.)

This is more of an Upright "Open" Velour.

M.W.B. Stolzf. Luxury Velour

This one the hair length is slightly longer and amazing quality.

JHS Superior Crystall Velour

Wow, that is nice Steve.

 

[mayserwegener]

Wow, that is nice Steve.

Scott, Thank you!

 

[Garrett]

JHS Sigma - Seal Velour - grey with black ribbon - late 30s (?) - size 5 (57)
This is the best/finest velour I've ever held in my hands!

open crown

inside: unusual lining in purple and white (unfortunately a bit worn out)

grey sweatband with golden print

Hückel Logo on the lining

Logo of the seller: "Ortmann - Spandau" (since 1920 part of Berlin)
(at least until 1941 at the same address)

labels (unfortunately, a piece of foam sticks over it, which cannot be removed without damaging the rest)

Fantastic! The bow / knot is a nice change of pace from what we typically see on these Sigma models.