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Wow. Just...wow. But only a 7-1/8. *sigh* Ah well, some lucky soul is getting a nice hat!Douglas Parker Hats with a Whippet vibe. 2 1/2” brim and substantial felt. US size 7 1/8...
Wow. Just...wow. But only a 7-1/8. *sigh* Ah well, some lucky soul is getting a nice hat!Douglas Parker Hats with a Whippet vibe. 2 1/2” brim and substantial felt. US size 7 1/8...
View attachment 365237 View attachment 365238 A very cool “Stetson Statler 1/8” just been given to me, here in Australia, is it vintage? Came with the brown packaging inside ican’t find any info on this model.Thanks
Thank you. I believe it was a USA purchase, made decades ago, so that fits with the age. Have never heard of Stetsons being made here. I will probably list it on ebay au once I check out what price to ask. Much appreciated, cheers
Also for this Borsalino I had a blow to the heart when it emerged from the box coming from Mantova and also for it the disappointment was great
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It has the same age as the brother shown yesterday and the same great features, but alas the same size.
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Borsalino Qualità Extra Superiore size 3 1/2 or 54 centimeters a 6 3/4 in US.
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The felt color is "Pomice" and the hat type is "Debrosan"
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It is more elgant then the "Misto Volga" and excellently made, also this is about ninety years old because it has the same components as some Borsalinos sold in Eastern Europe and in Germany before the Second World War
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The oil skin protection has broken during the long time it was in a small hats shop near Mantova
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The measurements are as follows: the brim with a minimal edged ribbon is 6.5cm, the ribbon is 3cm high, the highest point of the open crown is 13 centimeters
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As I publish these very small hats I hope there is someone who can wear them, perhaps with some small adjustments, but leaving them in a box would be a very serious sin.
Pretty sure this one has become my oldest felt hat, a non-western Stetson No. 1 Quality:
Specs:
5-3/8" Crown
2-3/4" Brim
3/8" Overwelt
2" Ribbon
116g Weight
LOT 2534
Beautiful light grey heathered felt with a medium to long hair finish. There are several moth nibbles throughout but due to the finish they're indistinguishable unless looking up close. The double frayed bow is what immediately cued me to this likely being an old piece. The flipped orientation of the No. 1 crest also seems to be less common. I know @alanfgag and @jlee562 have hats with a crest oriented this way.
Because of these features I broke one of my rules in regards to buying because no size was shown. The only dimension listed by the seller was the inner circumference, measuring "about 23 inches." I personally don't trust this dimension but I went ahead and BIN'd anyway. Very relieved when I took it out of the box and it fit my head, later finding the 7-3/8 tag behind the sweat.
The sweat is still quite supple, though obviously some stitches are missing. I was quite careful locating the LOT number in front, first utilizing a mirror to verify it was there and legible. At 2534 it's one of the relatively lower numbers, and lower than my Stetson derby (6614).
As an added bonus I've tried doing some research on the perforated name CJ Byrns, and the most common hits tie to a lumber baron from Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Amongst other things he served as the General Manager at Birds Eye Veneer in Escanaba in the 1920s, which is the city where I grew up. I realize this is a bit speculative on my part but it would just about be the proverbial feather in the cap if this hat truly did once belong to him. I've contacted the local historical society for a couple records they have on file associated with Byrns. I'd also like to check census records to see if any others with the same name are documented. The pieces so far, though, seem to fit. His position warranted him spending time in Chicago for business, and a description of his preserved home mentions the bathroom being remodeled after a recent stay at a hotel in Chicago. So buying a hat at Marshall Field & Co of Chicago seems plausible.
Even if the Byrns connection is too much of a leap, this hat is still and oldie and a goodie. Still undecided on how to shape but I'll be looking through the pre-40s thread and old fashion plates and advertisements for inspiration.
What a fabulous addition Jonathan. CongratulationsPretty sure this one has become my oldest felt hat, a non-western Stetson No. 1 Quality:
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Specs:
5-3/8" Crown
2-3/4" Brim
3/8" Overwelt
2" Ribbon
116g Weight
LOT 2534
Beautiful light grey heathered felt with a medium to long hair finish. There are several moth nibbles throughout but due to the finish they're indistinguishable unless looking up close. The double frayed bow is what immediately cued me to this likely being an old piece. The flipped orientation of the No. 1 crest also seems to be less common. I know @alanfgag and @jlee562 have hats with a crest oriented this way.
Because of these features I broke one of my rules in regards to buying because no size was shown. The only dimension listed by the seller was the inner circumference, measuring "about 23 inches." I personally don't trust this dimension but I went ahead and BIN'd anyway. Very relieved when I took it out of the box and it fit my head, later finding the 7-3/8 tag behind the sweat.
The sweat is still quite supple, though obviously some stitches are missing. I was quite careful locating the LOT number in front, first utilizing a mirror to verify it was there and legible. At 2534 it's one of the relatively lower numbers, and lower than my Stetson derby (6614).
As an added bonus I've tried doing some research on the perforated name CJ Byrns, and the most common hits tie to a lumber baron from Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Amongst other things he served as the General Manager at Birds Eye Veneer in Escanaba in the 1920s, which is the city where I grew up. I realize this is a bit speculative on my part but it would just about be the proverbial feather in the cap if this hat truly did once belong to him. I've contacted the local historical society for a couple records they have on file associated with Byrns. I'd also like to check census records to see if any others with the same name are documented. The pieces so far, though, seem to fit. His position warranted him spending time in Chicago for business, and a description of his preserved home mentions the bathroom being remodeled after a recent stay at a hotel in Chicago. So buying a hat at Marshall Field & Co of Chicago seems plausible.
Even if the Byrns connection is too much of a leap, this hat is still and oldie and a goodie. Still undecided on how to shape but I'll be looking through the pre-40s thread and old fashion plates and advertisements for inspiration.
Love this!!Pretty sure this one has become my oldest felt hat, a non-western Stetson No. 1 Quality:
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Specs:
5-3/8" Crown
2-3/4" Brim
3/8" Overwelt
2" Ribbon
116g Weight
LOT 2534
Beautiful light grey heathered felt with a medium to long hair finish. There are several moth nibbles throughout but due to the finish they're indistinguishable unless looking up close. The double frayed bow is what immediately cued me to this likely being an old piece. The flipped orientation of the No. 1 crest also seems to be less common. I know @alanfgag and @jlee562 have hats with a crest oriented this way.
Because of these features I broke one of my rules in regards to buying because no size was shown. The only dimension listed by the seller was the inner circumference, measuring "about 23 inches." I personally don't trust this dimension but I went ahead and BIN'd anyway. Very relieved when I took it out of the box and it fit my head, later finding the 7-3/8 tag behind the sweat.
The sweat is still quite supple, though obviously some stitches are missing. I was quite careful locating the LOT number in front, first utilizing a mirror to verify it was there and legible. At 2534 it's one of the relatively lower numbers, and lower than my Stetson derby (6614).
As an added bonus I've tried doing some research on the perforated name CJ Byrns, and the most common hits tie to a lumber baron from Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Amongst other things he served as the General Manager at Birds Eye Veneer in Escanaba in the 1920s, which is the city where I grew up. I realize this is a bit speculative on my part but it would just about be the proverbial feather in the cap if this hat truly did once belong to him. I've contacted the local historical society for a couple records they have on file associated with Byrns. I'd also like to check census records to see if any others with the same name are documented. The pieces so far, though, seem to fit. His position warranted him spending time in Chicago for business, and a description of his preserved home mentions the bathroom being remodeled after a recent stay at a hotel in Chicago. So buying a hat at Marshall Field & Co of Chicago seems plausible.
Even if the Byrns connection is too much of a leap, this hat is still and oldie and a goodie. Still undecided on how to shape but I'll be looking through the pre-40s thread and old fashion plates and advertisements for inspiration.
Pretty sure this one has become my oldest felt hat, a non-western Stetson No. 1 Quality:
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Specs:
5-3/8" Crown
2-3/4" Brim
3/8" Overwelt
2" Ribbon
116g Weight
LOT 2534
Beautiful light grey heathered felt with a medium to long hair finish. There are several moth nibbles throughout but due to the finish they're indistinguishable unless looking up close. The double frayed bow is what immediately cued me to this likely being an old piece. The flipped orientation of the No. 1 crest also seems to be less common. I know @alanfgag and @jlee562 have hats with a crest oriented this way.
Because of these features I broke one of my rules in regards to buying because no size was shown. The only dimension listed by the seller was the inner circumference, measuring "about 23 inches." I personally don't trust this dimension but I went ahead and BIN'd anyway. Very relieved when I took it out of the box and it fit my head, later finding the 7-3/8 tag behind the sweat.
The sweat is still quite supple, though obviously some stitches are missing. I was quite careful locating the LOT number in front, first utilizing a mirror to verify it was there and legible. At 2534 it's one of the relatively lower numbers, and lower than my Stetson derby (6614).
As an added bonus I've tried doing some research on the perforated name CJ Byrns, and the most common hits tie to a lumber baron from Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Amongst other things he served as the General Manager at Birds Eye Veneer in Escanaba in the 1920s, which is the city where I grew up. I realize this is a bit speculative on my part but it would just about be the proverbial feather in the cap if this hat truly did once belong to him. I've contacted the local historical society for a couple records they have on file associated with Byrns. I'd also like to check census records to see if any others with the same name are documented. The pieces so far, though, seem to fit. His position warranted him spending time in Chicago for business, and a description of his preserved home mentions the bathroom being remodeled after a recent stay at a hotel in Chicago. So buying a hat at Marshall Field & Co of Chicago seems plausible.
Even if the Byrns connection is too much of a leap, this hat is still and oldie and a goodie. Still undecided on how to shape but I'll be looking through the pre-40s thread and old fashion plates and advertisements for inspiration.
Super cool! Start looking through hat photos from the teens! You're one step closer to being able to time travel!Pretty sure this one has become my oldest felt hat, a non-western Stetson No. 1 Quality:
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Specs:
5-3/8" Crown
2-3/4" Brim
3/8" Overwelt
2" Ribbon
116g Weight
LOT 2534
Beautiful light grey heathered felt with a medium to long hair finish. There are several moth nibbles throughout but due to the finish they're indistinguishable unless looking up close. The double frayed bow is what immediately cued me to this likely being an old piece. The flipped orientation of the No. 1 crest also seems to be less common. I know @alanfgag and @jlee562 have hats with a crest oriented this way.
Because of these features I broke one of my rules in regards to buying because no size was shown. The only dimension listed by the seller was the inner circumference, measuring "about 23 inches." I personally don't trust this dimension but I went ahead and BIN'd anyway. Very relieved when I took it out of the box and it fit my head, later finding the 7-3/8 tag behind the sweat.
The sweat is still quite supple, though obviously some stitches are missing. I was quite careful locating the LOT number in front, first utilizing a mirror to verify it was there and legible. At 2534 it's one of the relatively lower numbers, and lower than my Stetson derby (6614).
As an added bonus I've tried doing some research on the perforated name CJ Byrns, and the most common hits tie to a lumber baron from Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Amongst other things he served as the General Manager at Birds Eye Veneer in Escanaba in the 1920s, which is the city where I grew up. I realize this is a bit speculative on my part but it would just about be the proverbial feather in the cap if this hat truly did once belong to him. I've contacted the local historical society for a couple records they have on file associated with Byrns. I'd also like to check census records to see if any others with the same name are documented. The pieces so far, though, seem to fit. His position warranted him spending time in Chicago for business, and a description of his preserved home mentions the bathroom being remodeled after a recent stay at a hotel in Chicago. So buying a hat at Marshall Field & Co of Chicago seems plausible.
Even if the Byrns connection is too much of a leap, this hat is still and oldie and a goodie. Still undecided on how to shape but I'll be looking through the pre-40s thread and old fashion plates and advertisements for inspiration.
Beautiful hat!A few years ago I bought two batches of shortly finished Italian felts, almost formed and a couple ready for use. One was made up of Borsalino "experiments" and another seems to be of Barbisio manufacture. The latter were all formed, but without finishes or, if any, had been removed.
So I started my plan to get new hats from old felts. This is the first of the series.
View attachment 365523 The Borsalino experimental felt was very thin and with some imperfections in its weight, some points were thicker others less. It has been balanced and "clipped" in order to give a uniform result
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All this was possible with the fundamental help and patience of Fleur, Dutch hatter, titular of Penumbra Hat.
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She has a very good knowledge of felts, their strengths and weaknesses and here she has obtained a very light, extremely malleable hat from a felt that had some problems
View attachment 365526 As you can see it has become an excellent hat, light weight: 98 grams!
View attachment 365527 The measurements are: raw brim 6 cm., 3.8 cm high ribbon and minimum height of the crown is 10 cm.
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Together we chose the color of the ribbon and its shape to match the cream color of the felt, finished with a short hair
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I chose this felt for its color and its surface which lent itself to being finished in the way you see.
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It has now become a Borsalino - Penumbra Hats creation to my delight
What a great collaboration Daniele. She did a wonderful job.A few years ago I bought two batches of shortly finished Italian felts, almost formed and a couple ready for use. One was made up of Borsalino "experiments" and another seems to be of Barbisio manufacture. The latter were all formed, but without finishes or, if any, had been removed.
So I started my plan to get new hats from old felts. This is the first of the series.
View attachment 365523 The Borsalino experimental felt was very thin and with some imperfections in its weight, some points were thicker others less. It has been balanced and "clipped" in order to give a uniform result
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All this was possible with the fundamental help and patience of Fleur, Dutch hatter, titular of Penumbra Hat.
View attachment 365525
She has a very good knowledge of felts, their strengths and weaknesses and here she has obtained a very light, extremely malleable hat from a felt that had some problems
View attachment 365526 As you can see it has become an excellent hat, light weight: 98 grams!
View attachment 365527 The measurements are: raw brim 6 cm., 3.8 cm high ribbon and minimum height of the crown is 10 cm.
View attachment 365528
Together we chose the color of the ribbon and its shape to match the cream color of the felt, finished with a short hair
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I chose this felt for its color and its surface which lent itself to being finished in the way you see.
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It has now become a Borsalino - Penumbra Hats creation to my delight