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Wasn't Silver beaver the way the pelt was cut & dressed out, a step only taken with the best pelts?

This is what I've read and came to understand. Whether the designation on these hats was a marketing ploy or not, I doubt we'll ever know. From the Leon Drexler site:

The softest fur comes from the beaver’s belly. Felt made exclusively from this fur came to be known as “silverbelly” due to its naturally light grey colour (which should not be confused with the word silverbelly as sometimes used to describe a similar colour of felt, but not the actual composition of the material). There is some modern-day hat aficionado mythology built up around silverbelly and its legendary softness and suppleness. However, one old text I’ve read states that felt makers actually considered pure silverbelly felt to be too soft, lacking somewhat in structural properties, and that a better felt is actually produced if you blend in some fibre from other parts of the animal to give it a bit more sturdiness. Tactile appeal aside, I know of no evidence that suggests there are any qualitative advantages inherent in silverbelly, nor in blending beaver with other luxury furs such as mink or chinchilla.
 
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Super find Rick!

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Homburg crazy, I now realize you can pinch a homburg which now elevated that style to the top for me. I recently purchased 3 Homburgs: 1. Borsalino brown 60s i guess 2. Stetson Royal Deluxe 40's i guess and on the way
Yes, and I let the homburg decide for me. Sometimes they call out to be pinched and others I leave as they seem perfect as they are.....my form of hat whispering.
 
Picked up this one at the local vintage store today.
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From sometime in the 50s I'm guessing, but listening to all other ideas.
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Can't see a paper tag. 2 1/2" or so brim, 5 1/2" or so open crown.

Michael
Michael.....that is JUST LIKE the Twenty I just picked up, same color and everything..........Does yours have the wind trolley too??? Mine does but you can JUST see it under the ribbon, and interestingly the button was tucked UNDER the bow. I have decided to leave it that way.....along with the bash as found. Mine is as soft as a "baby's butt" as they say.....will be posting pictures under the Stetson Twenty, Sovereign Stetson thread....
Congrats.....looks great on you!!
M
 

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Not exactly a new hat (though I DO have a few I really need to post.....Do we even have a Hat Ephemera sub-forum????) but this "Hat Sales manual.....1944....should make interesting reading.
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Would be great if you could scan or photograph the booklet and post it up here.

Michael.....that is JUST LIKE the Twenty I just picked up, same color and everything..........Does yours have the wind trolley too??? Mine does but you can JUST see it under the ribbon, and interestingly the button was tucked UNDER the bow. I have decided to leave it that way.....along with the bash as found. Mine is as soft as a "baby's butt" as they say.....will be posting pictures under the Stetson Twenty, Sovereign Stetson thread....
Congrats.....looks great on you!!
M
Cool. Sadly mine is missing a wind trolley, which I sort of assumed came with it. Soft as baby's butt is a good description of the felt. It also seems much more substantial then the felt on a Royal Deluxe from the same era. And as it happens, I'm wearing it again today.

Thanks,
Michael
 
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Central California
I just received my Herbert Johnson Trafalgar. I wasn't expecting much. It arrived packaged in a box half the size of the hat; not a good sign.

Then I touched it. Wow! The felt is buttery smooth and so pliable I was afraid it wouldn't maintain its shape under its own weight. After some recent disappointments with vintage hat purchases I was do for a nice surprise. I'll add some steam to set the shape, but there is no need to get it reblocked as I was thinking.

The hat I saw online:
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The hat I received:

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I haven't heard many good reviews of recent Herbert Johnson hats, but I'd buy several if they were all like this one.


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Funkytown, USA
I just received my Herbert Johnson Trafalgar. I wasn't expecting much. It arrived packaged in a box half the size of the hat; not a good sign.

Then I touched it. Wow! The felt is buttery smooth and so pliable I was afraid it wouldn't maintain its shape under its own weight. After some recent disappointments with vintage hat purchases I was do for a nice surprise. I'll add some steam to set the shape, but there is no need to get it reblocked as I was thinking.

The hat I saw online:


The hat I received:



I haven't heard many good reviews of recent Herbert Johnson hats, but I'd buy several if they were all like this one.


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Good job! That's a nice looking hat. Head shot?
 

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I just received my Herbert Johnson Trafalgar. I wasn't expecting much. It arrived packaged in a box half the size of the hat; not a good sign.

Then I touched it. Wow! The felt is buttery smooth and so pliable I was afraid it wouldn't maintain its shape under its own weight. After some recent disappointments with vintage hat purchases I was do for a nice surprise. I'll add some steam to set the shape, but there is no need to get it reblocked as I was thinking.

The hat I saw online:
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The hat I received:

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I haven't heard many good reviews of recent Herbert Johnson hats, but I'd buy several if they were all like this one.


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Havnt heard anything bad abt the new HJ's cept maybe the price. I like them.
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View attachment 91253 View attachment 91254 View attachment 91255 View attachment 91256 View attachment 91257 View attachment 91258 Homburg crazy, I now realize you can pinch a homburg which now elevated that style to the top for me. I recently purchased 3 Homburgs: 1. Borsalino brown 60s i guess 2. Stetson Royal Deluxe 40's i guess and on the way
Wow, all fantastic Homburgs. I agree that some like a pinch, and some do not. I usually take the pinch out when going more "formal"
 

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I just received my Herbert Johnson Trafalgar. I wasn't expecting much. It arrived packaged in a box half the size of the hat; not a good sign.

Then I touched it. Wow! The felt is buttery smooth and so pliable I was afraid it wouldn't maintain its shape under its own weight. After some recent disappointments with vintage hat purchases I was do for a nice surprise. I'll add some steam to set the shape, but there is no need to get it reblocked as I was thinking.

The hat I saw online:
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The hat I received:

f8591f8feda8955ce3e6e007c40e8a94.jpg
c89a8bd5e4985d15919a10a4b04e7d22.jpg
a448466bc8e6b164f49e2a660d5471f4.jpg
ff8317ca550f5cb5b52be836f836a68f.jpg


I haven't heard many good reviews of recent Herbert Johnson hats, but I'd buy several if they were all like this one.


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Nice score

Great dimensions...looks to have great hand
 

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