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Orgueil Cossack New

Pkshfo74036

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Hi, I just want to show you my new Orgueil Cossack jacket in Steer hide which I purchased from Rivets store in Shanghai.

The store also had a Himel Bro's Heron, but I opted for this instead due to it being half the price and preferring the stylings cue's.

I was expecting a tighter fit as it's size 44 which is what my Aero 30s HB is. I had read that the Japanese jackets run small. The shoulders could do with an inch less but I'm really happy the sleeves are not to short.

Here's some photos.
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Pkshfo74036

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I will add that the leather is reacting really fast to the oil on my skin and the humid weather in SH right now
 

Pkshfo74036

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That's a great looking jacket. Looks like a solid fit as well.

Thanks Dude, after owning an Aero I was honesty a little disappointed with the stitching on the Aero compared to my Belstaff and D&G. This Orgueil's stitching is as good as those jackets, while it may not be a Freewheelers or Real McCoy's ^^

Actually I'm waiting for you to review some Freewheelers jackets on your almostvintagestyle YouTube channel.
 
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Pkshfo74036

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Really beautiful. But are the shoulders a little bit of?

Yes the shoulders are way off lol. Keep wondering if I should have gone the 42 with a better shoulder fit but a little tight in the chest and short in the sleeves. Guess that's how it goes with Japanese sizing.

I think I can live with it
 

Dr H

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Yes the shoulders are way off lol. Keep wondering if I should have gone the 42 with a better shoulder fit but a little tight in the chest and short in the sleeves. Guess that's how it goes with Japanese sizing.

I think I can live with it

The shoulders are a little wide, but not drooping.
You’ve summarised the dilemma for a typical Western buyer considering a jacket cut for Japanese buyers well.
 

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The shoulders are somewhat wide, but personally I kind of like that in my jackets, my favourites are JL and Langlitz which both by design have wide shoulders. Leather on this looks great too. I think you could have gone down a size for fit in the body, it's a bit baggy but you are absolutely right, the sleeves would have been too short then. They really shouldnt be shorter than they are in this size, so I think what you got is the best you can get from this particular style.
 

Mich486

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I’d be happy with the shoulders as they give off a more relaxed vibe. The thing that would bother me a little is the body length which I think is too much by 2” although the sleeves I wouldn’t want them any shorter.


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Carlos840

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Its a nice looking jacket, but IMO the fit is off.
It is too wide in the shoulders and more importantly too long in the body.
IMO this style of jacket should be much much shorter, it should cover your belt and that's it.

Can you send it back and try a 42?
 

Sloan1874

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This is why I've kind of given up with Japanese stuff. No matter how much I like the item, the fit always lets it down a little. That said, I'm sitting here in a RM 'Hookless Zips' t-shirt that I love, so it's a question of what you're willing to live with.
 

torfjord

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If this was my jacket and it fit me like that, I would send it back. In my opinion you can get a much much better fit in a Cossack/shawl collar jacket from another maker. This one is too baggy and too long.

It’s a shame it doesn’t fit you, cause it really has a lot of interesting details and the leather looks really nice.


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Pkshfo74036

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I've sent it back and exchanged for a size 40, there's a chance I should have exchanged for 42 instead. But you guys are right it looks way to big on me considering it's meant to be a slim cut. I know the sleeves are going to be a bit short but I really like this jacket and I want a tight fit!

Sometimes you get a new jacket, and try to convince yourself it's a good fit, after a few days reality sets in as it festers in the back of your mind
 

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