I know there wasn't many of these produced or for a long period of time, but Im hoping some loungers might have a black HH Vanson in their closet. I'm trying to compare with this mystery NOS Model J I just picked up. Doesn't feel anything like any vintage or new vanson Ive come across. It's very board stiff / stand up on its own, but not massively thick like old school comp weight. Also has much more shine / grain than comp. Pics will follow when I get a chance