My, how times have changed

[kokopelli]

It's sort of a "bible belt" thing for some (like me) I suppose. It's just not something that we were raised to embrace (kids+adults+bodies), for lack of a better explanation. Ron

Are you suggesting there is something wrong with seeing your parents bodies?

 

[Paisley]

I can't see any particular reason to walk around in front of the kids au natural. [huh]

 

[Smuterella]

but we are talking about a stomach, not nipples or genitalia

 

[Smuterella]

I can't see any particular reason to walk around in front of the kids au natural. [huh]

I can't see any reason not to, aside from the cold

 

[Feraud]

Modesty is in the eye of the beholder.

What I find odd is for a 9 yr. old boy to comment how pretty mommy's belly button is. The story is either a lie or mom is harping on her surgery and encouraging her child to fixate on her belly button.

 

[ShooShooBaby]

I can't see any reason not to, aside from the cold

me neither. but to each, their own i guess... for the record, i come from a family where everyone stayed covered up for the most part.

 

[Smuterella]

me neither. but to each, their own i guess... for the record, i come from a family where everyone stayed covered up for the most part.

I come from a family of hippies, so nudity was the norm and I often shared a bath with either parent or my brother until mid teens or so...

 

[Miss 1929]

The more I hear about you...

I come from a family of hippies, so nudity was the norm and I often shared a bath with either parent or my brother until mid teens or so...

...the cooler you get!

I grew up with modest parents, no at-home nudity, but in my cirle of friends in my teens, in the 70s on California, none of us wore clothes in the summer unless we had to. Ont he other hand, my husband grew up in a Catholic country, so he still freaks out if I walk around the house naked, with all the blinds down! "Showing yourself to the world" is how he puts it. So silly.

I think it is good for kids to see naked people. Much less body issues later in life. As long as no fuss is made about it, it's good for them to see that we come in all shapes and sizes.

 

[Smuterella]

I think it is good for kids to see naked people. Much less body issues later in life. As long as no fuss is made about it, it's good for them to see that we come in all shapes and sizes.

A round of applause for you

:eusa_clap

 

[ShooShooBaby]

I think it is good for kids to see naked people. Much less body issues later in life. As long as no fuss is made about it, it's good for them to see that we come in all shapes and sizes.

i agree! i think my first time at the oregon country fair was the most nudity i'd ever seen in one place. it is truly amazing to see the vast array of human bodies, when not controlled by the beauty industry. everyone looks so different. i think it's when we keep bodies a mystery (except the tightly controlled images we see constantly in the media) that we start to get such horrid body issues. if everyone you ever see naked or near-naked is an airbrushed model, you're going to start thinking you're a freak! many of us have a hard time ever overcoming that. [huh]

 

[Jovan]

...the cooler you get!

I grew up with modest parents, no at-home nudity, but in my cirle of friends in my teens, in the 70s on California, none of us wore clothes in the summer unless we had to. Ont he other hand, my husband grew up in a Catholic country, so he still freaks out if I walk around the house naked, with all the blinds down! "Showing yourself to the world" is how he puts it. So silly.

I think it is good for kids to see naked people. Much less body issues later in life. As long as no fuss is made about it, it's good for them to see that we come in all shapes and sizes.

Good to know someone [sorry] older than me agrees with me on that. That's how I was raised and I think I turned out okay.

 

[jayem]

Eh, I agree that it's a bit strange for a 10yr old boy to remark on 'mommy's pretty belly button'. It's also weird for the boy to think that his mothers natural sags and wrinkles are the result of staying in a bath too long. At that age, most kids including myself know that people age. Maybe if the boy was 4 or 5... but c'mon.

As for the family nudity debate... yeah... no. I can understand a mom walking around in her bra or something... but anything past undergarments is a bit odd.

 

[TheKitschGoth]

It's a modern book, now I know people on the FL don't tend to wear modern fashions, but the rest of the world tends to. A lot of modern fashions are a little more revealing, hipsters and cropped tops for example. So belly buttons tend to be visible. So the ten year old boy quote isn't really as shocking as everyone's maiking it out to be.

 

[Naama]

Come on! Beauty surgeon was already available in the golden era! Monroe had her nose done, rumor has it that Garbo had some teeth removed (I'm still not sure how true that one is).... I mean, sure, it wasn't THAT common as it is today, but I think when you are unhappy with something, you should have the freedom to change it if you want to.
When I was younger I was always sure that I'm going to have a nose job, but when I grew older, the only thing I would do is liposuction lol

But the book.... I don't know, I think the way it is put together just want's to make me puke, really.... It doesn't show plastic surgeon as something you (should) do for yourself but as something you do to confirm to standard beauty images....



Naama

 

[nobodyspecial]

Come on! Beauty surgeon was already available in the golden era! Monroe had her nose done, rumor has it that Garbo had some teeth removed (I'm still not sure how true that one is).... I mean, sure, it wasn't THAT common as it is today, but I think when you are unhappy with something, you should have the freedom to change it if you want to.
When I was younger I was always sure that I'm going to have a nose job, but when I grew older, the only thing I would do is liposuction lol

But the book.... I don't know, I think the way it is put together just want's to make me puke, really.... It doesn't show plastic surgeon as something you (should) do for yourself but as something you do to confirm to standard beauty images....
Naama

I don't recall anyone suggesting one should not have the freedom to change one's looks. I'm sure most people wish to be taller, thinner, better looking, better athetes, have a full head of hair, a whiter smile, etc.... Some of these things are able to be changed easily in today's world. The extent to which one ventures to acheive these changes is something to debate. If one's self esteem is so fragile that it takes a face lift, liposuction and large breasts to feel good about themself, perhaps the money is better spent on therapy by a licensed professional.

 

[Ada Veen]

Modesty is in the eye of the beholder.

What I find odd is for a 9 yr. old boy to comment how pretty mommy's belly button is. The story is either a lie or mom is harping on her surgery and encouraging her child to fixate on her belly button.

What is interesting is how a 9 year old conceives of a 'pretty' bellybutton. What values - in a child - decide which belly buttons are 'pretty'? Is it ones that are similar to the cultural ideal, or an intrinsic aesthetic preference for certain bellybuttons or what? [huh] weird.

 

[Feraud]

Without doubt it is the unhealthy parental preoccupation with particular body parts.

 

[Ada Veen]

scary.

 

[Chas]

Nudity? I have no issue with that - within reason, I suppose. Nudist beaches and camps are cool, but other than that, well.....

Don't get me wrong; I'm not a prude, but I don't believe that anyone's need for self expression outweighs all other considerations. For some naturalist/nudist types, I get the distinct impression that they are fishing for a reaction. Especially a negative one, so they can jump on a soapbox and rant about the "insecurity" of others.

And I can't cotton to that any more than I could to starlets and celebrities flashing their anatomy for paparazzi.

It's about balance, I guess.

 

[Paisley]

I'm no expert on this subject, but from what I understand, body issues aren't caused by wearing clothes. They can be caused by parents who emphasize appearance.