So this video popped into my YouTube recommendations, ostensibly a tour of the Christy's factory, at the 3:00 mark, they show a brass embossing die with the Bates logo.
Totally agree.The felt will probably have a nicer/softer hand than an Akubra, but won't be nearly as resilient to the elements.
I have it on good authority that it's a lock & co, like a lot of Dave's caps & hats.
Thank you!Welcome Christopher. Great photos.
Thank you! I just always really liked the look of his fedora and have been thinking of maybe one day buying one like his. So I'll keep those measurements in mind next time I go hat shopping.From looking at a bunch of hat photos, not much science here, I'd say 2 inch brim, 4 1/2 inch crown. I think the ribbon on that hat is 1.5 inches and crown is about 3 times the ribbon.
Thank you for the welcome! I haven't been able to figure out what the shape of the crown would be. You mean whether it's teardrop or center crease, right? I have only ever seen these three photos of him in his hat. And sadly none of my relatives know where his actual hat is. So really these pics are all I have to work from. If I were to bring the photos into a custom hatter would they be able to make an educated guess of what the crown shape would be based on the photos?If you're looking to replicate it via a custom hatter, the block shape plays as much a role as the actual dimensions of the hat.
It is a beautifully proportioned hat, and welcome to the forum.
Thank you for the welcome! I haven't been able to figure out what the shape of the crown would be. You mean whether it's teardrop or center crease, right? I have only ever seen these three photos of him in his hat. And sadly none of my relatives know where his actual hat is. So really these pics are all I have to work from. If I were to bring the photos into a custom hatter would they be able to make an educated guess of what the crown shape would be based on the photos?
That is very true. I guess maybe I should focus on figuring out my own style as opposed to trying to replicate my grandfathers. Thank you for the advice.I would also add that choosing to replicate a loved one's hat in shape is not always a smart move - you may well find a different shaped crown (both height and taper) and brim width suit you better, but you can still likely get away with similar colours and overall styling.
I threw the pics on a grid, did some ball-park estimates of sizes etc, and came up with maybe a 2" brim and a 4 1/2" crown. . . and then realized it was probably a 1 1/2" ribbon.From looking at a bunch of hat photos, not much science here, I'd say 2 inch brim, 4 1/2 inch crown. I think the ribbon on that hat is 1.5 inches and crown is about 3 times the ribbon.
I agree.Two points: I'm gonna dissent and say that' a 2" ribbon. Brim I'd put between 2 1/4 and 2 1/2, probably closer to the former than the latter.
I also would contend that the old "rules" of matching crown shape and height are really more of a general suggestion than a decree from the fashion police.