Lee 101Z 23 oz selvedge jeans

[schitzo]

well, I got the 32s today and they are the right size for me i.e. they fit like a true 34. But the difference between these and the 34s I have is sizeable. In the latter, though the waist is too big, I can move freely and though they are heavy they feel comfortable (ish). The 32s on the other hand are anything but comfortable. Movement is restricted so much so that it makes walking an interesting experience. But I am not deterred! And am really looking forward to conquering a pair of jeans like this. Personally, I can't see how soaking them could make them anymore rigid than they are now, and I may just give them a quick handwash in lukewarm water with mild detergent before I set out on this mission. Thanks for all the input chaps!

All the best
Schitz

 

[schitzo]

well, I got the 32s today and they are the right size for me i.e. they fit like a true 34. But the difference between these and the 34s I have is sizeable. In the latter, though the waist is too big, I can move freely and though they are heavy they feel comfortable (ish). The 32s on the other hand are anything but comfortable. Movement is restricted so much so that it makes walking an interesting experience. But I am not deterred! And am really looking forward to conquering a pair of jeans like this. Personally, I can't see how soaking them could make them anymore rigid than they are now, and I may just give them a quick handwash in lukewarm water with mild detergent before I set out on this mission. Thanks for all the input chaps!

All the best
Schitz

 

[apba1166]

I would give them a 20 minute cold soak (it'll take a while for water to really permeate them)--zippered!--then dry outside til just a little damp and then squeeze yourself into them and wear for as long as you can...that may help stretch them where they need it most After a couple weeks of wear, you'll know more. Keep us informed. I like the idea of a heavyweight Lee, and I am also a 34. So, curious....

 

[majormajor]

Keep us informed. I like the idea of a heavyweight Lee, and I am also a 34. So, curious....

The dealbreaker for me would be the cut.

Are they the classic straight leg, which Lee have traditionally done better than anyone else, or are they a modern "tapered" leg.

Judging by Schitzo's difficulty of movement in them, it sounds like the legs are narrow.:eeek:

 

[Ishmael]

Indeed. I see these listed as "slightly" tapered, but I find that, if you're a straight leg man, even that slight taper will be a problem. Looks like the 32w = 8" leg opening. That's a little much for me.

 

[schitzo]

They're not straight nor are they skinny, I'd say they are slim straight which is typically what I like, though these are probably at the bottom end of slim straight. Any slimmer and I think they'd be skinny jeans. Dimensions are 12.5" across the thighs, knees at just under 9" and hems that are 8". For me I rank them on the threshold of acceptability, as I won't wear skinny jeans

 

[Ishmael]

I think "threshold" is exactly right. They're definitely not skinny. I misspoke above. Was comparing the 101z 23oz with my best fitting jeans, but I was using the wrong (i.e. raw) measurements. The Lee's are actually very close to my Pure Blue Japan xx-003, but slightly more narrow in the leg (PBJs are the same in the thigh, but have an extra 1/4" in the leg). On second thought, I will have to give the 101z 23oz a look!

 

[Mojo1975]

The dealbreaker for me would be the cut.

Are they the classic straight leg, which Lee have traditionally done better than anyone else, or are they a modern "tapered" leg.

Judging by Schitzo's difficulty of movement in them, it sounds like the legs are narrow.:eeek:

Without a doubt, the LEE 101Zs are much slimmer that the originals. These aren't LVCs...so size accordingly and be sure you want a slimmer fitting jean if you decide to purchase the 101Zs. I usually wear a 35 x 34 tag size in USA-made Levi's 501s, but in the 101Zs, I'm a 33 x 34. Weird, I know, but you still have to buy them so that they fit the way they're supposed to...even if that's pretty darn slim...

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[Cooperson]

Good to see a denim thread. Any chance of seeing some pics of jeans being worn?

 

[GriffDeLaGriff]

I have some that got caught on film when taking pics of jackets.....

Tapered 634s
Im gonna take new photos of these tomorrow, becasue they have been worn more and even washed once since that pic!

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[Ishmael]

Should we go ahead and start a new denim thread? Or carry on here?

 

[Cooperson]

Top quality pics, many thanks - can't beat seeing jeans being worn to get an idea of the fit. Killer jacket in the last two pics, what is it?

 

[Cooperson]

Should we go ahead and start a new denim thread? Or carry on here?

I think a new thread showing pics of denim being worn would be a great idea.

 

[schitzo]

@Cooperson: When they're dry again I'll add a fit pic for you.

@Ishmael: I'm not sure exactly what the correct etiquette is. Perhaps a less specific thread would be useful, but for now I'd probably say just carry on until somebody tells you otherwise.

Edit: In fact I'd like to see a thread with models listed and pics to show fit so I vote go ahead and start one. Ishmael you are the man for the job!

 

[GriffDeLaGriff]

Top quality pics, many thanks - can't beat seeing jeans being worn to get an idea of the fit. Killer jacket in the last two pics, what is it?

Thanks.

The jacket is an Aero 30´s halfbelt with 2 breastpockets and no sidepockets. It has no halfbelt and the lining is the berry three season tartan. The jacket is very short and is made of the former (thin) oilpull medium weight so it is my summer jacket.

 

[GriffDeLaGriff]

I hope everyone got that the 634s is tapered. I sent them to "The Denim Doctor" to get them tapered. I have put on some waist so I had to get them kinda big, I dont know if thats why, but they were hilariously wide in the legs, I found them unwearable like that so thats why I sent them to be tapered. Now Im very happy with the fit.

 

[Ishmael]

New thread is up, hopefully it reflects the direction the conversation here was veering toward.

 

[j.pelc]

Are these Lee 101Z, 23oz. sanforized?
I own 2 pairs of these and attached tags are confusing (one says "sanforized, shrink to fit is not an option, buy your size", and second says "will shrink one size") and I don't want any shinkage but I will have to wash them in some months....

 

[j.pelc]

Coming back to sizing of waist in Lee 101Z, 23oz.
In my 2 pairs, they are almost true to size.
For 31/34 waist is: 1st pair: 30,7 (78cm) and 2nd pair: 31,5 (80 cm).

 

[schitzo]

I put them in the washing machine for the first time yesterday, on a low heat. Previously they've been dry cleaned thrice.






IMO they look better than when they went in and I am, overall, pleased. However, regrettably something has caused a snag. It's not a hole but looks to me like it could well end up a hole.



Naturally, I called the denim doctor and he reckons he can probably sort if for £10 - 15, though he hasn't actually seen it yet (I just emailed him a couple of snaps now..)

For anyone interested, they don't seem to have shrunk.