leather jacket porn for fetishists and zealots

[Fanch]

@Ian, Fanch & everyone else who's told me to keep it.
Am I missing soimething? Sure, the HB is a very nice jacket but I seriously don't get how this one seems to be the most appreciated. Would anyone care to articulate exactly why? For me I feel like it's half an inch too long, and also probably a little bit broader than optimum. IMO probably a better (albeit marginally) fit on somebody with a slightly bigger chest i.e. 39 or 40 - I am just 38

Schitz, I disagree with your assessment that the 50's HB is too long in the body and broad in the chest by even a smidgen. I also agree with what Pauleway had to say regarding how you prefer your jacket to fit, keeping yourself satisfied, and not buying or keeping something based on others' preferences. Just wish that your 50's HB were a 42-44 Long!

 

[EmergencyIan]

And, frankly, it's absolutely of no consequence to any of us, so, do whatever you want to do.


- Ian

 

[schitzo]

Well chaps, firstly thanks for all this input I do appreciate it. This has made me think hard and I am, again, questioning my judgement!

I don't have to sell it. I just felt that if I'm wearing the herc now this one has kinda been displaced. I suppose it won't hurt to see how the herc feels when it's broken too, and to then re-assess

Aero actually had the HB at the time the herc was made and I did ask for it to be a clone of this one as I felt the 'oversized' proportions of the HB would be perfect for a slightly longer jacket. But what I got is one that's ever so slightly smaller - I think an inch tighter in the chest and half an inch less on the shoulders - which I guess is their stock size 38 for this model. Wearing it it doesn't feel too tight anywhere but obviously it's very new still and it can't compare comfort wise to the HB which is a jacket I can basically forget I am wearing

 

[schitzo]

And, frankly, it's absolutely of no consequence to any of us, so, do whatever you want to do.


- Ian

Yes, thanks Ian that's true. But for my part a percentage of the opinions and insight offered on these pages are of some consequence, for me at least, as I realise there are older, wiser and more experienced heads than me on here whose 2 cents really does carry some weight

For example, asking my g/f would be totally futile! So you lot (not all of you! lol) actually are a decent resource

 

[ButteMT61]

I have to say, I think the HB fits well, the Herc, too long almost everywhere. My 2¢ only to make it clearer to you what to do now lol
Sorry, but I do think that. You're tall and slim though - maybe you need a cut that's more made for your body type? A 30's HB or cafe racer or Ventura, for example.
My son is built tall and thin too - he could not pull off one of those jackets IMO. Sorry to cloud it further. If it's of ANY consequence, it's taken me 5 years to get even close to knowing what I need and what works on me. It's all the fun of the hunt!

 

[Fanch]

Yes, thanks Ian that's true. But for my part a percentage of the opinions and insight offered on thee pages are of some consequence, for me at least, as I realise there are older, wiser and more experienced heads than me on here whose 2 cents really does carry some weight

For example, asking my g/f would be totally futile! So you lot (not all of you! lol) actually are a decent resource

Well, I'm definitely older :clock: and more experienced (lost count of ill fitting jackets purchased in the past but have done better recently). But wise? As someone told me a long time age "we are all too soon old; too late smart." :rip:

Seriously, IMO your 50's HB is one of the best looking/fitting jackets that I have seen on anyone in a long time. If you think it fits slightly too big, you have the option of layering underneath; and when it comes time to replace the lining, you have the option of going with a thicker, heavier lining.

Regarding your Hercules, you should find it 'feel' bigger with time as it stretches and breaks in, very much as your 50's HB likely did as well. The sleeves will shorten as creases develop, so I would not even think of shortening the sleeves on the Hercules if I were you.

My Conclusion: Reflect on your exceptionally nice jacket collection, enjoy what you have, keep the 50's HB, and don't think of buying something else (for at least a couple of weeks lol).

 

[Boyo]

At least wait for the exchange rate to come back in your favor..

 

[schitzo]

@ Butte I think it's taken me even longer than that to make a shorter journey! I've had sleeves that were too short and too long, and for me these are neither. The body length when it's undone seems to me to be spot on - for what I had in mind. Though whether or not this style flatters my frame I don't know. Once it's broken in I guess I'll have a better idea, and appreciation of the fit also. How it feels on is as important as anything else, to me, and at the moment there are no alarm belles ringing and the early signs are it'll feel pretty good..

@ Fanch I definitely won't be shortening them. Yep, in those HB fit pics I am layered up. It's without those layers that I feel like it's just that half an inch too long. Of course it isn't a bad fit, and I've enjoyed wearing it and breaking it as I have. Like Butte says, the hunt is all part of the fun

So for now I think the only decision I can make is that I'm not taking one yet! You guys have given me a headache

Bottom line is I'm going overseas later this year, for a while, and so before I leave I've got one more shot with aero left and possibly a couple with Alexanders - so long as their waiting list doesn't soar too.

Which of course is a whole nother set of headaches!!!

 

[schitzo]

At least wait for the exchange rate to come back in your favor..

hah hadn't considered that. Perhaps it'll only get worse!

 

[ButteMT61]

Maybe a good soaking of them both would help. I didn't like the fit of any of my FQHH until I got the soaked, dried, and repeated a few times. The new stuff is pretty stiff and once it starts moulding to your shape, it's better for sure.

 

[Fanch]

@ Fanch I definitely won't be shortening them. Yep, in those HB fit pics I am layered up. It's without those layers that I feel like it's just that half an inch too long. Of course it isn't a bad fit, and I've enjoyed wearing it and breaking it as I have. Like Butte says, the hunt is all part of the fun.

It seems you have the same situation with your 50's HB that I have with my size 44L Highwayman, which is why I am sizing down to a 42L for my Teamster. However, I have no plans to sell my Highwayman but will just have two different fitting jackets. I do understand how too much time spent looking at the FL can give one a tension headache though! :frusty:

 

[IXL]

They are both beautiful jackets, but the Hercules almost has the length of a car coat. It strikes me as just too long.
The other one looks great. It does not appear to be too large and as has been pointed out, you will most probably fill out just a bit in coming years. If you get rid of it you will wish you hadn't.

 

[Highwaymanman]

There's nothing wrong with a jacket that fits best when you layer under it. My highwayman is the same and I wouldn't have it any other way. If the day doesn't call for a warm sweater I don't really want to wear a leather jacket either. It's different for a dedicated moto jacket but for utility jackets.... well, that's my preference anyway.

 

[pauleway]

Well chaps, firstly thanks for all this input I do appreciate it. This has made me think hard and I am, again, questioning my judgement!

I don't have to sell it. I just felt that if I'm wearing the herc now this one has kinda been displaced. I suppose it won't hurt to see how the herc feels when it's broken too, and to then re-assess

Aero actually had the HB at the time the herc was made and I did ask for it to be a clone of this one as I felt the 'oversized' proportions of the HB would be perfect for a slightly longer jacket. But what I got is one that's ever so slightly smaller - I think an inch tighter in the chest and half an inch less on the shoulders - which I guess is their stock size 38 for this model. Wearing it it doesn't feel too tight anywhere but obviously it's very new still and it can't compare comfort wise to the HB which is a jacket I can basically forget I am wearing

What's wrong with having one short and ond long length jacket. They both look and fit great, and if you don't really need the money, keep them both-It's called "Best of Both Worlds"! You could look and spend a whole lot of time and money looking for something right under your nose (or in this case - Closet)!!!

 

[schitzo]

I have to say, I think the HB fits well, the Herc, too long almost everywhere. My 2¢ only to make it clearer to you what to do now lol
Sorry, but I do think that. You're tall and slim though - maybe you need a cut that's more made for your body type? A 30's HB or cafe racer or Ventura, for example.

Damn it that's right!! I can see it very clearly now. I got a jacket in the length I wanted one - but this jacket probably wanted to be at least an inch shorter. The stock length is 28" and that, I think, is for guys 4 inches shorter than me so I'm a little surprised. That said I've seen them worn a lot longer than this and mine is no disaster. The sleeves I wouldn't alter. As for needing a more Herculean chest to pull it off (which I think is the inference here?) I can't agree with that part either. I saw somewhere pictures of a waif like - skinnier than me - Japanese dude in this jacket and reckoned it looked pretty good on him (can't find them now sorry will maybe look again later)

So basically I now have two aeros that are too long! lol Perhaps I'll flip the herc :eeek::eeek:


@Pauleway that's right there's nothing wrong with a longer one and a shorter one - of course not - but I do have a pioneer on order.. which is another headache into the bargain! Guess I can worry about that one when it gets here


Thanks
Schitz

 

[schitzo]

the other thing nobody has mentioned (besides Boyo), and a potential reason for flipping one of em, is that they're both brown

 

[Fanch]

the other thing nobody has mentioned (besides Boyo), and a potential reason for flipping one of em, is that they're both brown

Neither the HB nor the Herc are too long - just different. Furthermore brown FQHH is far and away the best looking color. Spending too much time on the FL can do in your head.

 

[schitzo]

Neither the HB nor the Herc are too long - just different. Furthermore brown FQHH is far and away the best looking color. Spending too much time on the FL can do in your head.

It's OK Fanch I know they're not too too long, if that makes sense. But Butte is right about the length of the herc's body. You know it too! Hence your Teamster is gonna be 28.5".

No matter, I enjoyed wearing that HB in every day over Autumn and now I'll enjoy this Herc. It's fine. Yes, they could both be a bit shorter, and one could be cordovan.. but as they are, all in all, they're pretty good

 

[gtdean48]

IMHO - the 50's HB looks like a perfect fit and the Hercules looks a little tight...

+1...The Hercules is just too busy in the front with pocket flaps & the design stitching...JMHO

 

[Fanch]

I think that body length for the most part relates to personal preference, and my "sweet spot" is 26.5" and will be interesting to see how a jacket that is a couple of inches longer feels.