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nylon...for legs and jackets
i gave up caps when i gave up editing for a living my fren. i do appreciate your chiming in with some info.
the entire point of the military going to nylon was to streamline costs from leather, and what they love to do most, standardize materials to streamline costs.
i can understand how rickson would come up with spicey ad copy about how their materials are the best, but not any better than the original if they are replicating correctly. and there always was only one nylon twill flight satin the mil used on the contracted jackets we've been talking about.
aerojoe, i do realize at times i'm horribly verbose, and as legumejacket/peacoat states, non-leather may not be an area to spark full interest. however, in the original review (which may not have been read-friendly) i did go into the fact of alpha's non current military contract jackets being made in china. luckily i had bought a U.S.-made B-15 ten years ago and was able to compare quality, and everything about it, to the new alpha B-15 i purchased. no difference anywhere.
but if that was not enough, there are the now over-posted quotes from alpha's U.S. sales manager also stating that the jackets have no differences from the original contract runs except acrylic vs wool cuffs and waist fabric, and poly and acrilic fill fiber vs the original heavy cotton. they are not trying to hide anything. whether the quality is the same, perhaps that's a reason to read reviews such as my (admittedly overwritten) piece.
as for the china thing, no one but a few of the high cost replicators are making their jackets in the U.S., so you pay for that distinction. a runon discussion of alpha and that issue is also in the review. the reason i purchased alpha is that i tried some of the other current nylon jacket makers, rothco and mil-tec specifically. nice jackets, but not the same quality, same materials, fit, as the originals, which those companies never made for the govt. they are not replicators, but competitors to alpha producting in china. alpha does appear, by what i've bought, and what the company states, to maintain the same standards for their jackets, even though made in china.
as for that label stigma, in the review i also state it's an issue. alpha addresses this for cosmetic nuts as myself, by not sewing the 'made in china' label into the jacket, but putting it on a snippable hangtag with washing instructions. small stuff, but i like that.
i gave up caps when i gave up editing for a living my fren. i do appreciate your chiming in with some info.
the entire point of the military going to nylon was to streamline costs from leather, and what they love to do most, standardize materials to streamline costs.
i can understand how rickson would come up with spicey ad copy about how their materials are the best, but not any better than the original if they are replicating correctly. and there always was only one nylon twill flight satin the mil used on the contracted jackets we've been talking about.
aerojoe, i do realize at times i'm horribly verbose, and as legumejacket/peacoat states, non-leather may not be an area to spark full interest. however, in the original review (which may not have been read-friendly) i did go into the fact of alpha's non current military contract jackets being made in china. luckily i had bought a U.S.-made B-15 ten years ago and was able to compare quality, and everything about it, to the new alpha B-15 i purchased. no difference anywhere.
but if that was not enough, there are the now over-posted quotes from alpha's U.S. sales manager also stating that the jackets have no differences from the original contract runs except acrylic vs wool cuffs and waist fabric, and poly and acrilic fill fiber vs the original heavy cotton. they are not trying to hide anything. whether the quality is the same, perhaps that's a reason to read reviews such as my (admittedly overwritten) piece.
as for the china thing, no one but a few of the high cost replicators are making their jackets in the U.S., so you pay for that distinction. a runon discussion of alpha and that issue is also in the review. the reason i purchased alpha is that i tried some of the other current nylon jacket makers, rothco and mil-tec specifically. nice jackets, but not the same quality, same materials, fit, as the originals, which those companies never made for the govt. they are not replicators, but competitors to alpha producting in china. alpha does appear, by what i've bought, and what the company states, to maintain the same standards for their jackets, even though made in china.
as for that label stigma, in the review i also state it's an issue. alpha addresses this for cosmetic nuts as myself, by not sewing the 'made in china' label into the jacket, but putting it on a snippable hangtag with washing instructions. small stuff, but i like that.
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