I will have to do a side by side, but i think the crown is taller but I am not certain.Other than the crown being less tapered on the new one, are the dimensions (open crown height, brim widths on the sides and front and back) the same?
I will have to do a side by side, but i think the crown is taller but I am not certain.Other than the crown being less tapered on the new one, are the dimensions (open crown height, brim widths on the sides and front and back) the same?
The movie wasn't great, but the Crystal Skull hat was the one that finally convinced me to get myself a nice fedora, i.e. my Dark Brown Fed IV.
The Everyman Indy is pretty much the same as the Adventurebilt Henry, which I have one of.
There isn't much comparison between a Fed IV and a Henry. The Henry/Everyman is better is every regard, inside and out. The 80/20 rabbit/beaver blend gives the hat all the characteristics of a 100% beaver hat. Finish, smoothness, and the ability to take a crease are superb. Interior materials, fit and finish are top-notch, as well.
As it is a machine made hat, I don't know about custom sizing, as John does with his handmade hats.
I've never owned a Penman, but I would expect them to be very different beasts from the Akubra. The Akubra is a production line hat, while the Penman is individually custom made. The Akubra is rabbit or rabbit /hare, while the Penman is beaver or beaver/rabbit. The Penman is also several times the price of the Akubra. Penman is a hat I'd buy to wear on special occasions; the Akubra is a solid daily driver. Horses for courses. I do love the look of the Penman coloured felts, especially the green, and the freedom to choose the ribbon colour is a big plus. If Akubra did a dealwhere I could order a Fed IV type hat and spec things like ribbon colour, a wind trolley, and brim binding, I'd bed in serious financial trouble....
I've never owned a Penman, but I would expect them to be very different beasts from the Akubra. The Akubra is a production line hat, while the Penman is individually custom made. The Akubra is rabbit or rabbit /hare, while the Penman is beaver or beaver/rabbit. The Penman is also several times the price of the Akubra. Penman is a hat I'd buy to wear on special occasions; the Akubra is a solid daily driver. Horses for courses. I do love the look of the Penman coloured felts, especially the green, and the freedom to choose the ribbon colour is a big plus. If Akubra did a dealwhere I could order a Fed IV type hat and spec things like ribbon colour, a wind trolley, and brim binding, I'd bed in serious financial trouble....
The Indy Everyman is not a custom, really. It is a factory made hat fitted out by John as an Indy hat to his very high standards. The price is just under 3x the current price of an Imperial Fed IV, and not quite 2x more $$ than the Heritage grade Fed IV.
If I was starting over again right now, knowing what I know, I'd go for an Indy Everyman over either of the Fed IVs.
Sorry for commenting on an old post, but I realized I made an error in my terminology. What I had said before was in reference to a rake, not a taper. I'm still learning here [emoji846]I think the angle of the photo gives the impression that the crown is more tapered than it actually is. All three of my Fed IVs currently have a Diamond crease, and...well, you be the judge:
And just to show the Diamond shape:
Ah. Yeah, "rake" and "taper" are two different subjects. I try to give all of my hats at least a little rake because I like the look, but between the shape of my head and the way I wear them it's been difficult for me to get the backs of the crowns low enough for the look I'd really like. I'm sure most here would advise me to raise the front of the crowns, but to my eye that makes the crown look too tall when viewed from the front, especially on the Fed IV with it's relatively narrow brim width on the sides. Yeah, I'm an odd creature.Sorry for commenting on an old post, but I realized I made an error in my terminology. What I had said before was in reference to a rake, not a taper. I'm still learning here [emoji846]
Ryan
Hat size: 7 1/2
I'm with you. Crown height and brim width need to be proportionate, at least to my standards. I'm personally not a fan of too much rake (again, proportions), but I think it suits others well. My next purchase is going to be an "Indy" hat of some sort. I was originally wanting to get a Fed IV, but if the funds will allow, I may go the custom route. I'd like to have a crown height of something near the Raiders hat, but maybe with a little more width in the brim. We shall see.Ah. Yeah, "rake" and "taper" are two different subjects. I try to give all of my hats at least a little rake because I like the look, but between the shape of my head and the way I wear them it's been difficult for me to get the backs of the crowns low enough for the look I'd really like. I'm sure most here would advise me to raise the front of the crowns, but to my eye that makes the crown look too tall when viewed from the front, especially on the Fed IV with it's relatively narrow brim width on the sides. Yeah, I'm an odd creature.
I'm with you. Crown height and brim width need to be proportionate, at least to my standards. I'm personally not a fan of too much rake (again, proportions), but I think it suits others well. My next purchase is going to be an "Indy" hat of some sort. I was originally wanting to get a Fed IV, but if the funds will allow, I may go the custom route. I'd like to have a crown height of something near the Raiders hat, but maybe with a little more width in the brim. We shall see.
Ryan
Hat size: 7 1/2
I think Johnny is the one who sported the only Fed III that I've seen, and I honestly can't recall the dimensions of it. I'm guessing they're no longer in production, so finding one would be a challenge. Especially when folks tend to hang on to their Akubras. I am considering the custom route in the hopes of getting something with higher quality felt, and any minor tweaks I may want as far as dimensions go. I have nothing against Akubra, but my understanding is they can't hold a candle to a good custom.Sounds like you want a Fed III.
I think Johnny is the one who sported the only Fed III that I've seen, and I honestly can't recall the dimensions of it. I'm guessing they're no longer in production, so finding one would be a challenge. Especially when folks tend to hang on to their Akubras. I am considering the custom route in the hopes of getting something with higher quality felt, and any minor tweaks I may want as far as dimensions go. I have nothing against Akubra, but my understanding is they can't hold a candle to a good custom.
Ryan
Hat size: 7 1/2
Sounds like you want a Fed III.
After some considerations, comtemplations, cogitations and cerebrations, I pulled a trigger for Federation IV. Ordered hats are Federation IV Deluxe black and heritage fawn. I was also fixated to order brown color as well, but it seemed quite close to Cedar Brown color for Campdraft in my collection.
I might get it later at some point once there's space in shelf
You realize, of course, that you're now mandated to post photos in this thread after you receive your new Fed IVs. Preferably after you've creased them; head shots would be nice.After some considerations, comtemplations, cogitations and cerebrations, I pulled a trigger for Federation IV. Ordered hats are Federation IV Deluxe black and heritage fawn. I was also fixated to order brown color as well, but it seemed quite close to Cedar Brown color for Campdraft in my collection.
I might get it later at some point once there's space in shelf
Embrace asymmetry; your life will become a lot easier...and they arrived today. Creasing these hats is going to be burdensome. Open or pinched telescope creases, while easy to do, may not fit them. And teardrop creases trigger my OCD if the side dents are not aligned