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You ask to give you a break?
YOU give us a break please
You ask to give you a break?
YOU give us a break please
C-dot said:Yes - Modesty and Prudishness are not to be confused.
"A prude (Old French) is a person who is described as being concerned with decorum or propriety. They may be perceived as being uncomfortable with sexuality, nudity, alcohol, drug use or mischief."
Cody Pendant said:I have only read the review way above.
Let me get this straight..... the author thinks that Ms. H. makes a GOOD roll model????
[huh]
It talks as if she is a model for moral behavior that you would want your daughter to emulate. Not me.
Lets see as already stated.
Adulterer (multiple times), divorcée, cheater, liar and fornicator. Suspended from collage.
Yea right, that’s what you want to girl to learn.
Not what I want my child to emulate.
And lets not forget her motherly instincts ala her mom : Katharine Martha Houghton (1878 – 1951) (co-founder of Planned Parenthood.)
No wonder she never had children, or knew how to maintain a relationship with a man.
And lets not forget her wonderful way with words…. I believe she was known in the press as “Acerbic”!
The woman had absolutly NO MORAL COMPAS!
Do what ever feels good to you at anybodys expense.
Seems to me peeps are confusing star success with a successful life. Lets make heros out of any famous person, because it will sell, not because they are worthy examples.
Let me guess, the next book recommendation will be the pedaphile Michal J.’s post humus book on parenting! Titled : Loving your boys the “Thriller” way.
Give me a break!
Paisley said:Sir, your observations are, I think, about Katherine Hepburn.
Audrey Hepburn made some mistakes, but also worked for the Resistance during World War II when she was just a kid and worked for UNICEF for many years.
Be that as it may, to set out to write a book about keeping your chin up and your skirt down, and choose role models who fooled around with married men, seems odd.
Viola said:I think alliteration was valued over any particular historic moral fiber.
Katherine was at least badass, and had that level of respect for herself that contrasts sharply with the sad sort of "spineless sexy" that reads less as a choice and more as a lack of confidence. Wit and conscious choice and yes "acerbic wit" are at least better than vacuous concern for really expensive shredded jeans.
But who is this writing this guide for "girls of 12-25(!)" anyway?
I was rather fond of the "bombshell guide to fashion" or whatever it was called (I'll google it at some point) based on vintage starlets and it was self-aware and funny, not a serious guide on Moral Fiber And Not Being Easy. Which, whatever. Pandering to the "be the good girl he wants to marry not the bad girl he wants for a weekend" is kind of sad to me.
Cody Pendant said:And Hadley H. blah.............blah..............blah.......And yes the word and the deed are still around.
Break served!
Cody Pendant said:And Hadley H. and Cecil: As this is a thread about books about the morals of “STARS” as role models with guidelines for young ladies, as recommended reading for the pubescent child, consider the following:
Your personal convictions aside, so please don’t take this as an affront to you personally;
Are you stating or indicating that you would recommend to your daughter or others daughters that she / they should read these books and do you recommend that she / they engage in adultery, fornication, pre-marital sex or what ever euphemisms you would choose? As a means to stardom and success? Personal fulfillment? For what reason do you recommend the above choices? And yes the word and the deed are still around.
Break served!
HadleyH said:QUOTE=HadleyH]#1Cody Pendant
You ask to give you a break?
YOU give us a break please
Miss Neecerie said:Alas....you ask others to put their personal convictions aside.....yet your rhetoric is filled with your personal convictions and stating as if they were shared by all.
That's perhaps a large assumption to make in a general context.
(please note I am not arguing -for- bad behavior on the part of ladies, merely that saying that certain things are an incontrovertible moral truth for all persons is an erroneous assumption and a personal conviction)
Cody Pendant said:Not at all! I never assumed that my "rhetoric" or moral convictions are / is shared by all. lol (please re-read the thread starter) I have pop-corn also!
However, THIS particular discussion is directly about roll models and morals. I am free to discuss the issue at hand.
Perhaps you would like to join in. How do you see it. How does the moral character of the county compare to the Golden Era and now, using starlets of the bygone day from Hollywood, (long known as a corrupt and deficient business) impact your daughter?
Perhaps you like Gan'ster Rap and it's lifestyle. Your choice Miss N. However, we should be able to discuss the moral ramifications your roll models will have on the "youth of the nation". I.E. the drug problems, the welfare, the killing, the prison I am paying for,,,etc. Not sure what the positives are. Maybe someone will let me know.
As for the personal convictions aside, that was specifically for the person being addressed, so as not to make a personal attack.
I will ask you the same questions in the sprit of discussion. Would you recommend a book about morals to your daughter, which she can look up the life story of online, and see she does not practice what she preaches?
Point lol
Christy said:'The Bombshell Manual of Style' Is that the book you're talking about? I have that one, I love it. It's fun and light hearted and entertaining.
Cody Pendant said:And lets not forget her motherly instincts ala her mom : Katharine Martha Houghton (1878 – 1951) (co-founder of Planned Parenthood.)
No wonder she never had children
Cody Pendant said:I still request that you address my question to you. Would you recommend the books and the behavior of the women in question to your daughter?
I think I deserve better treatment than blah, blah, blah.
I did not take offence to your comments but chose to address them. Kindly do the same for me.
Next the “word and deed” is a direct reference to your comments on my choice of using the specific and correct terms for the actions under discussion, i.e. “fornication”.
Volley served!
Christy said:To me, this part of your original post sounds like a personal belief. Personally, I do not know anything about Katherine or Audrey Hepburn, so I can't answer your question fully as to whether or not I'd want them to be a role model for my daughter if I had one. The little I do know about Katherine: the fact that she was a strong independent woman, and the fact that she did not have kids in a time where it was considered strange if women didn't settle down and have kids is a good thing. I would want those traits to be a role model for my hypothetical daughter.
HadleyH said:mmmmmm...... to be succint....i don't have any daughter but if i had i would not stop her from reading any book. OK, question answered.
secondly and more importantly..... from the zillions and zillions of words you seem to be fixated on the word "fornication". What is your problem with that word Cody Pendant? why it bothers you so much? ...... anyway..... what do i care one way or another! [huh]
For the obvious reasons.Cody Pendant said:Are you stating [...] that you would recommend to your daughter or others daughters that she / they engage in pre-marital sex? [...] For what reason do you recommend the above choices?
:eusa_clapHadleyH said:i don't have any daughter but if i had i would not stop her from reading any book.
Cody Pendant said:Adulterer (multiple times), divorcée, cheater, liar and fornicator. Suspended from collage.