How many new jackets do you have coming (and how many potential ones)?

[Marc mndt]

I was fearing that. It's going to change the game completely. Unless UK based manufacturers lower their prices, they will all of a sudden be much less attractive, at least in Europe.

I'm glad Greece is still with us

 

[Mandarin]

You bet...

 

[Marc mndt]

Imagine buying an elmc californian direct from Eastman. £1200 +£30 Shipping.
£1230*1.12 (customs fee)=£1378
£1378*1.21 (VAT)=£1667 =€1850

That's €1850 for a stock Eastman jacket.

I could buy a custom Shinki hh Thedi from that money and still have €300 left in my pocket.

Same holds for Aero, Field Leathers and any other maker from the UK.

 

[Monitor]

So that's pretty much it as far as Aero & Eastman goes for me...

 

[torfjord]

So that's pretty much it as far as Aero & Eastman goes for me...

Yeah, same for me. What European makers do we have that’s still in the EU? Thedi. Bill Kelso? Any more?

 

[Mandarin]

BK is in Milton Keynes, UK.

 

[Marc mndt]

Yeah, same for me. What European makers do we have that’s still in the EU? Thedi. Bill Kelso? Any more?

Bill kelso is UK as well, right?

 

[torfjord]

Ah, yes that’s right as @Mandarin pointed out. I’ve never purchased from them, but seemed to remember someone saying that their workshop was in Greece? Hence my confusion on their location.

 

[red devil]

So that's pretty much it as far as Aero & Eastman goes for me...

And for many others... they will have to review their pricing

 

[Cornelius]

Sounds like an ideal moment for this Engelbert Vanek fellow in Austria to... make a website?

 

[torfjord]

And for many others... they will have to review their pricing

Agree. Problem for them is if they import their material (like Italian horsehide for example), their production costs would go up as well. Yeah, this will change the market all right.

 

[Monitor]

Sounds like an ideal moment for this Engelbert Vanek fellow in Austria to... make a website?

Let's make these guys some money. Best part, once they become famous, all those other slackers are going to have to up their game to keep up.

 

[handymike]

Ah, yes that’s right as @Mandarin pointed out. I’ve never purchased from them, but seemed to remember someone saying that their workshop was in Greece? Hence my confusion on their location.

We are all a bit confused when it comes to the internal workings of BK. Best not to think about it too much, and enjoy the jackets

 

[Jin431]

Let's make these guys some money. Best part, once they become famous, all those other slackers are going to have to up their game to keep up.

I'm down for this. That jacket that was sold to Robbie looked great

There was also that bespoke French cyclist jacket post recently that looked rather interesting. Maybe makers in other parts of Europe will gain from this

 

[wild_balls]

I read that there are some rules about an item being produced in the UK that may be releived from some of the fees that are coming with import.
I should also say that it is quite hard to understand the whole thing. Don’t take my words for the absolute truth as I don’t think everything clears until we have grown in to it some time next year. There are about 2000 points in the agreement to understand. It wasn’t meant to be a Brexit thread

Cheers Joakim

 

[Marc mndt]

The brexit will also impact the second hand market. Jackets sold by UK based sellers like 'mintvintage 66' will become more expensive. I can also image second hand Aero jackets getting more expensive within the European market.

 

[Jin431]

I read that there are some rules about an item being produced in the UK that may be releived from some of the fees that are coming with import.
I should also say that it is quite hard to understand the whole thing. Don’t take my words for the absolute truth as I don’t think everything clears until we have grown in to it some time next year. There are about 2000 points in the agreement to understand. It wasn’t meant to be a Brexit thread

Cheers Joakim

As an outsider looking in, I find it very interesting. I'm intrigued how forum members from mainland Europe and those from the British Isles react to this. Especially concerning when it is about leather jackets lol

 

[Mandarin]

I read that there are some rules about an item being produced in the UK that may be releived from some of the fees that are coming with import.
I should also say that it is quite hard to understand the whole thing. Don’t take my words for the absolute truth as I don’t think everything clears until we have grown in to it some time next year. There are about 2000 points in the agreement to understand. It wasn’t meant to be a Brexit thread

Cheers Joakim

We'll see. I have an order coming from UK. I checked the government's site concerning taxes, but it's like navigating in the mist. They can't provide a simple guideline to calculate taxes according to the value of your goods. In the worst of cases, I'll have to add half of the value, like @Marc mndt calculated. Which, again, is going to completely change the game for me.

 

[Mich486]

Imagine buying an elmc californian direct from Eastman. £1200 +£30 Shipping.
£1230*1.12 (customs fee)=£1378
£1378*1.21 (VAT)=£1667 =€1850

That's €1850 for a stock Eastman jacket.

I could buy a custom Shinki hh Thedi from that money and still have €300 left in my pocket.

Same holds for Aero, Field Leathers and any other maker from the UK.

You are assuming the VAT is paid twice. That won’t happen.

 

[Marc mndt]

This is exactly how it works when I buy something from the US or from China and import it into the European union.

Do you think I will be able to buy from Eastman/Aero without paying VAT?