How many new jackets do you have coming (and how many potential ones)?

[jonesy86]

I wasn't being entirely serious.......but yes, I have done fit pics for my own acquisitions.....see below. But what I would say is always go outside to do your pics.....find somewhere to rest your camera if you don't have a tripod......and try to look your best! I am even more opposed to leather jackets with shorts, than I am to over-long sleeves....and thats saying something!

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/aero-a2-soft-italian-horsehide.91236/page-2

OK, can we compromise?
Outside photo...check
No flip flops...check
No over long sleeves...check

 

[HoosierDaddy]

I know I'm repeating myself..but an untucked shirt under a leather jacket only looks sloppy IMO although it seems to be the 'fad' now for some.

 

[jonesy86]

Ok, ok,
Outside photo...check
Shoes...check
No over long sleeves...check
No shorts...check (capris ok?)
Oops, shirt not tucked in....Doh

 

[Superfluous]

I know I'm repeating myself..but an untucked shirt under a leather jacket only looks sloppy IMO although it seems to be the 'fad' now for some.

Agree to disagree.

Men not tucking in their shirts has been a common practice for as long as I can remember -- certainly for over thirty years ( https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/style/untucked-shirts-male-uniform.html ). Not really a fad anymore. Moreover, the practice is here to stay.

Important distinction: I tuck-in dress/dressy shirts, including with cotton pants. On the other hand, I never tuck-in shirts with jeans. Again, strictly a personal preference for which there is no correct or incorrect approach (no mater how resolute one's preference).

FWIW @HoosierDaddy , I think the tucked look suits you well.

 

[Downunder G Man]

Hey Jonesy , "get back in the kitchen" haha...

AND that endless horizon view is just so '"meh meh"...( NOT !)

 

[El Marro]

Unfortunately, my kitchen is the best option (which has led one unnamed member to regularly belittle me and my kitchen -- rather silly).

I like your kitchen!

Ditto!
I complemented Super on the tile backsplash and stone countertop combination in his kitchen after seeing it as the backdrop to several jacket pics. It is quite nice!

 

[ton312]

When you check the tracking and see the shipper used “parcel select” to ship....

LOL. True story.

 

[ton312]

Agree to disagree.

Men not tucking in their shirts has been a common practice for as long as I can remember -- certainly for over thirty years ( https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/style/untucked-shirts-male-uniform.html ). Not really a fad anymore. Moreover, the practice is here to stay.

Important distinction: I tuck-in dress/dressy shirts, including with cotton pants. On the other hand, I never tuck-in shirts with jeans. Again, strictly a personal preference for which there is no correct or incorrect approach (no mater how resolute one's preference).

FWIW @HoosierDaddy , I think the tucked look suits you well.

Could not agree more. In a casual setting, I can’t bear the thought of tucking in my shirt. I would never and I quite literally mean, NEVER, tuck in my t shirt. I specifically make sure my shirts (casual button downs or T’s are not too long to require such a thing). That said I have nothing against tucking a shirt in but it feels very formal to me and I reserve that practice for work and weddings.

 

[ton312]

OK, can we compromise?
Outside photo...check
No flip flops...check
No over long sleeves...check
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You have quietly become my hero sir. I mean that. If I wore a hat I’d tip it but please accept my salute.
Do you ever get to Makapu’u beach? I have fond memories there.

 

[Seb Lucas]

Could not agree more. In a casual setting, I can’t bear the thought of tucking in my shirt. I would never and I quite literally mean, NEVER, tuck in my t shirt. I specifically make sure my shirts (casual button downs or T’s are not too long to require such a thing). That said I have nothing against tucking a shirt in but it feels very formal to me and I reserve that practice for work and weddings.

Agree. I have asked people to please untuck their shirts many times. I have not tucked a shirt in for at least 35 years. Personal taste, but I dislike the feel and look of a tucked in shirt.

 

[Superfluous]

I specifically make sure my shirts (casual button downs or T’s are not too long to require such a thing).

I have shortened many a shirt so that it is suitable to be worn untucked. OCD is my friend.

 

[El Marro]

I’m sitting here reading this and shaking my head, t shirt tucked in:

 

[Superfluous]

I’m sitting here reading this and shaking my head, t shirt tucked in

 

[jonesy86]

Full TFL Uniform
Boots
Jeans
Belt
Tucked shirt
Jacket
Hat

 

[jonesy86]

Hey Jonesy , "get back in the kitchen" haha...

AND that endless horizon view is just so '"meh meh"...( NOT !)

If I had a nickel for every time someone told me that...
I spent a lot of years in the kitchen, and no way am I ever going to go back. I suppose I could still wear the hat though.

Oops, wrong thread.

 

[Marc mndt]

OK, can we compromise?
Outside photo...check
No flip flops...check
No over long sleeves...check
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Beautiful cossack... Check

 

[jonesy86]

You have quietly become my hero sir. I mean that. If I wore a hat I’d tip it but please accept my salute.
Do you ever get to Makapu’u beach? I have fond memories there.

Thanks Ton, I also tip my hat to your jacket adventures, especially the recent original maker vintage trend. I am too big and/or long for true vintage jackets.
I have not been to O'ahu since moving here, and with recent covid spikes and renewed travel restrictions probably won't be going soon. I did some body surfing at Makapu'u Beach in 2016 and hurt my shoulder when a wave picked me up and slammed me down on the bottom, Ooops. Makapu'u is a beautiful beach! I just hang out at Keália Beach just down the hill and along the coastal path from my apartment.

 

[Edward]

Do you really think that people will look that closely at your zipper pulls? Seriously..??

I would tend to agree that it's highly unlikely anyone would ever notice. I used to have a leather trenchcoat I loved wearing with a suit, but I would avoid it if I was head up round Highgate and other parts of North London, given that for anyone over a certain age (interestingly, kids under thirty just used to shout "Oi, Matrix!") there remains a strong stereotype of "Nazi Gestapo" about that particular look. Zipper pulls, well.... while I'd avoid a deliberately "racist zipper", something coinciental like this which is such a tiny detail and where it is completely coincidental, I find it hard to imagine it being spotted. I just woyuldn't wear it somewhere that someone who *might* have an issue with the coincidence might get offended.

Whoever stamped those zips and ok’d them for production was a straight up dumb ass idiot. It had to be a production line mistake but they never should’ve been installed. I’d throw that one back in the goodwill bin. Not worth the effort for an excelled jacket to replace the pulls.

Either that or they just live in another part of the world where these things simply don't have the same symbolism as they do in the US. KKK Zippers Inc was founded in India in 1975 by Ashok Shah; presumably the name was intended to be a close mimic to the mark of the YKK Group, founded in Japan in 1934, at a time when India was fast becoming a major manufactuing cente for fashion clothing sold into the West. 1970s India was not a place where many would have heard of the Klan, and it's a very different culture with its symbolism - even today you can still find Hindu temples festooned with the Swastika, and it doesn't have the same meaning as we would jump to in the West.

https://www.indiamart.com/kkk-zippers/about-us.html

If the jackets were made in the US, it would seem an odd detail to miss (it being the company name, rather than just inscribed to make a lookalike product for the YKK zips), but if they were made in India there's a high chance the entire product came to completion from people who'd never heard of the Klan.

I had to take a chance on this Schott 118J. Hope it works out.

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Very nice. Saw something similar in LE from Schott a couple of years ago where the length was too muich and killed it, but this looks to be cut to the standard 118 25" back, and all the bette for it. Look forward to seeing fit pics.

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Looks like Vanson's version of Brando's Durable. Nice positioning of the stars closer the middle of the epaulett than the outside edge, correct to Brando's jacket (as distinct from a 613).

Danny, it shouldn't be difficult to attach the stars yourself, though it's usually done with a kick press machine but other than that, they aren't really made in any special way. I think they'd tell you the same and would probably charge you a lot for sending you the stars while there are a lot of options on eBay, just gotta make sure to buy the metal ones (Vanson seems to be using those Russian stars). Other than that, they all attach the same.

Yip, steady have and a hole punch...

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I would tend to agree. I suspect the length has been exaggerated to account for modern, low-waisted jeans and ensure full coverage of the lower back in a forward leaning, racing bike type, crouched riding position. It does rather throw the proportions off, though. On me, I'd be looking for a back length somewhere between 25" and 26" - perhaps as much as 27" if sizing it to fit over another jacket. At the right length, it could be a really nice alternative to a jaket in warmer weather - especially with a few pockets added.

It is too long considering the style. The side buckles are down to my butt. Length would be fine if it is a WW2 Jerkin but sadly it is not.

Yeah, I'd want those sdie buckles probably around level with my trouser belt.

I like the look of cuff strap, just have it a lil bit higher up I guess, would look good if the buckle or cinch is the smaller version but the same style with your side buckles

A nice detail, though risky if you plag on playing chicken any time soon.

I almost feel like the number of choices we have these days can be a bad thing. You can be paralyzed by the number of options.

It definitely requires a level of confidence in your own choices, as well as a mindset which says "I don't need to have one of *everything*". Esier said than done sometimes.

I personally think people's boredom with jackets as you describe it is probably more about control and consumerism than it is about the jackets.

To an extent, I'd agree. I wonder too if the nature of the web and buying online doesn't also come into play, as disticnt from the old dayswhen you might walk into a shop, try on a few and pick the one that worked for you. It's much easier nowadays to get the point point of having spent hundreds at a distance befoe you look in the mirror and think.... "Nah...".

Great looking jacket! That Racer made an impact back in the days, I remember how huge it was when Schott released a repro, and it was great looking one. Restoration dude was ahead of the time.

That Restoration/Schott jacket was controversial to say the least in these parts when it was first announced, but the idea of an unlined, utilitarian jacket in just the right hide does have an appeal to me. Just got to be sure the dye won't transfer, and it could prove a good 'warme weather' option.

For once, instead of getting another leather jacket I'll look to replace a week later, figured I'd try something new. How much will I wear them, I don't know but I always wanted these Aero's 60's trousers so... Why not.

Very nice. Similar look to the Lewis 935s that were worn by James Caan et al in the original Rollerball film, but with a few tweaks that make them very classically Aero, such as the American-style buckle. These look like they would be criacking for riding in. Did you order them direct from Aero? Couldn't find leather trews on the website recently, I wondered if they'd either stopped doing them or just revampling that part of the site.

Thanks, My only concern is when the Mrs reads the credit card statement I will need to do some fancy dancing

That's the tricky bit. At least with a vintage jacket with some nice wear on it itself you an always play the "what, this old thing, no it's been around forever..."

I’m sitting here reading this and shaking my head, t shirt tucked in:
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Cracking belt - I'd love to see a thread about that in the "General Attire and Accountements" room!

 

[Edward]

Separately, "style" is entirely subjective and your attempt to mandate your personal style -- e.g., all shirts must be tucked -- is inappropriate. Frankly, I think the "style" you advocate is, in certain respects, unstylish

I'm not going to disagree.....I should not have brought my own preferences into this. That was boorish of me and I apologise. But I'll stick with the broader point that fit pics are worth taking a little care and forethought over. Certainly out of the box pictures are just that.....they are a different thing all together. I'll get my coat.....

THere's always something of a tension between differing expectations here that seems to root often in two diffetrent camps of what brings people here. Many of us gravitated here per the original TFL concept of being interested in a wider vintage look, or at least some part thereof; on the other hand, this has also now become known as a forum for high end leather jackets out of any vintage context, so will inevitably bring folks who cross over, whose fashion norms are otherwise very modern. TFL wants to be a welcoming environment for all comers; we welcome those who are interested maybe only in one specific aspect of vintage, though we do reasonably expect that is a two-way street. I personally don't care for the occasional critter who turns up and openly poo-poos the idea of anything other than modern fashion norms. In a place like this that quickly becomes trolling. Suffice it to say, there are lots of different opinions in these parts as to what works.

Personally, I find a tucked-in shirt can be a helpful thing when folks ask for opinions on things suck as jacket length; it's also very useful information fo those among us who might be considering a similar purchase. It means we can tell if a jacket meets a higher, vintage style waistband, for instance, or a lower, modern one. Helpful information for anyone whichever of those they prefer.

I know I'm repeating myself..but an untucked shirt under a leather jacket only looks sloppy IMO although it seems to be the 'fad' now for some.

I'd say it's gone way past fad to "moden fashion norm" since the 90s, though my personal preference aligns with your own. I think one of the reasons I started tucking a shirt as standard (the only exception for me is an Eloha shirt, which of course was originally designed to be worn that way) was when I got into shorter jackets and didn't care for the contrasting "vallance" of shirt poking out beneath. I'm not a divan bed. I think I also had recently gotten a very cool Harely belt buckle at the time (I must have been maybe sixteen, seventeen) which I was keen to show off... These days it's a part of the overall look I go for (pre 1959 - once men's trousers get narrower from 1958ish and then waistbands start to drop into the sixties, I largely lose interest). I got rid of a couple of supposedly 'dress' shirts over the years because they were cut too short to stay tucked in - presumably the intent was that they would be worn untucked.

 

[Marc mndt]

the only exception for me is an Eloha shirt, which of course was originally designed to be worn that way)

There's one more formal shirt which is designed to wear untucked. It's the Cuban guayabera.