Homburg Nation

[se couvrir]

Echter Borsalino Homburg in black, dated 14 Nov 1957. Sweatband reads; Mertes, Schildergasse, Koln. I'm a little puzzled by the unusual (at least to me) 'Borsalino Giuseppe & Fratello' liner label. although I remember seeing one of Steve's Borsalinos with this label. There is minor rubbing to the brim binding on one side, but it is more noticeable in the photo. Have also posted this in the Borsalino Brotherhood thread.







Chris

 

[mayserwegener]

Chris, Great find! Always nice to have date stamp. Do you mean G.B. Borsalino fu Lazzaro & C.? They were the other Borsalino but were absorbed by Borsalino Giuseppe e Fratello SPA in 1935.

 

[se couvrir]

Thanks very much Steve - and no, I meant the actual liner emblem under the liner crown protector which reads 'Borsalino Giuseppe & Fratello'. If you enlarge my pic no. 3 showing the liner, you will see more clearly what I mean.
I remember seeing a pic somewhere of one of your Borsalinos with this same emblem and have searched for it, but am unable to find it.
Your pic and my hat are the only two examples that I have come across, so I wondered what might be the significance, if any at all.

Chris

 

[mayserwegener]

Thank you for the clarification. I will look around and see if I can find another one like it. Borsalino Giuseppe & Fratello had many logo variants.

 

[se couvrir]

Found it Steve! Your IPS thread Borsalino (German market) # 3
Chris

 

[mayserwegener]

Thanks!

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/50-borsalino-german-market/#entry254

 

[mayserwegener]

Aug. Wenzel Wien, measures 59cm, probably early to mid 1950s.

 

[DOGMAN]

Just found this Mac Lachlan Homburg.It"s a 7 3/8,2in unreeded sweatband.The ribbon needs some work.But the hat is in great shape.The sweat is one I've not seen before it's called Air-Vac.

 

[mayserwegener]

Super! Mostly likely "The Eden" is Anthony Eden (famous British Politician) who was known for wearing Homburgs.

 

[hatsRme]

Is there a corrugated area between the front of the sweatband and the felt? My MacLachlan had that system. Clever way to vent!

 

[DOGMAN]

HatsRme,I don't see a corrugated area.If you look at the pic that shows the area with the holes,you can see that the sweatband is not attached in the front.So the front of the band is open.Mayserwegener,thanks that's cool info.

 

[alanfgag]

Like this, perhaps?

 

[DOGMAN]

Thanks,Alan.Looks exactly the same.

 

[alanfgag]

A Mac signature... congratulations on finding a rare bird!

 

[stratcat]

Super! Mostly likely "The Eden" is Anthony Eden (famous British Politician) who was known for wearing Homburgs.

Although here in the UK the homburg would more likely be called an 'Anthony Eden'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Eden_hat

 

[mayserwegener]

Although here in the UK the homburg would more likely be called an 'Anthony Eden'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Eden_hat

Yes I am sure that was the case in that time period. The original Homburg was Edward VII. He brought the hat back from PH. Möckel Hutfabrik Homburg vor der Höhe, Germany supposedly in 1882. In Germany it would have been called a Modehut (Fashion Hat).

 

[DOGMAN]

Thanks for the Wikipedia article.

 

[stratcat]

Yes I am sure that was the case in that time period. The original Homburg was Edward VII. He brought the hat back from PH. Möckel Hutfabrik Homburg vor der Höhe, Germany supposedly in 1882. In Germany it would have been called a Modehut (Fashion Hat).

Indeed, and a most fashionable chap he was too! I'm sure Edward the VII would have made the Homburg fashionable amongst the upper classes at the time. Fashions have always tended to follow the monarchy and I'm sure that would have sown the seed for the politicos, who were generally the upper-class at the time, to follow.

 

[mayserwegener]

Indeed, and a most fashionable chap he was too! I'm sure Edward the VII would have made the Homburg fashionable amongst the upper classes at the time. Fashions have always tended to follow the monarchy and I'm sure that would have sown the seed for the politicos, who were generally the upper-class at the time, to follow.

What is interesting is that the soft felt hat was looked down upon in Britain and especially fashion soft felts from Europe. It's fairly apparent if you look through The Hatter's Gazette (similar to The American Hatter) editions from late 1800s into the early 1900s. I think some of it was about protecting the British stiff felt industry. Edward VII was definitely not of that view point and wore German and Austrian soft felt hats. I also discovered he brought a Trachten style Velour hat (Anton Pichler Graz) back from Marienbad, Austria that became popular within court circles (see photo below). I am not sure this was known until I found it mentioned in a memorial (by Österreichisch Hutmacher-Zeitungto December 20, 1930) to Anton Pichler of Graz (see link below).

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionz...hler-hutfabrik-josef-pitchler-sohne/#entry958

 

[mayserwegener]

Not sure if this photo has been posted before. Edward VII is in the center. The hat company was PH. Möckel Hutfabrik Homburg vor der Höhe, Germany.