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Steve1857

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Don't know what I was thinking, but it probably was something like "very cool, pity it's in black". These hats sometimes stick around, so who knows? Here's one I did bring though.
Milano homburg in brown. Not much to go on, because there's only a partial label. Italian made, but unclear by which manufacturer. The felt and finishing are excellent and the proportions are appealing with the brim at 6cm and the crown at 11,5cm. There's a wonderful warm reddish tone to the felt.

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Stefan, great looking Homburg, shape and proportion wise plus those brown, red, auburn coloured over and undertones. Is it a "large" 57?

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Don't know what I was thinking, but it probably was something like "very cool, pity it's in black". These hats sometimes stick around, so who knows? Here's one I did bring though.
Milano homburg in brown. Not much to go on, because there's only a partial label. Italian made, but unclear by which manufacturer. The felt and finishing are excellent and the proportions are appealing with the brim at 6cm and the crown at 11,5cm. There's a wonderful warm reddish tone to the felt.

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Beautiful color on that one Stefan.
 

Hagwood

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Some from me as well that I haven't posted here.

Mallory homburg in dark blue (almost black).
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Crown at 12.5cm at dent and brim at 6.2cm. Felt is very malleable and soft but also thick. One of my most warm hats for the Norwegian winter :)


Next, Cavanagh twenty homburg with thin brim binding, black
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Condition is never worn. Crown at 12cm at dent and brim at 6.5cm. Wonderful proportions and style, love it!

Many, many thanks to the fantastic enabler Brent for these two !!

Third one is a mystery to me. Bought at the local vintage market for a price I couldn't resist ;) Monark black homburg made (imported?) for the Norwegian market and sold in Oslo.
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Crown at 11.5cm at dent and brim at 5.5cm. Condition is never worn and felt surprisingly nice and dence. Any ideas about the brand ?

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Wow, Ditto on what everyone has said - great Homburgs, and the Mallory and Monark liners are beautiful !!
 

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Well I finally got my Homburg Nation membership card. I posted this on the New Hats thread, but was waiting until I had more time to post the details here.

Cavanagh from early to mid 50’s. Ribbon was torn and the sweat is a little fragile, but the felt is immaculate after cleaning. I conditioned the sweat with Neatsfoot Oil and it looks fine now. I’ve removed the ribbon and have a vintage stock replacement on order. It also has some contrasting stitching on the brim that I like.

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PanosChris

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Well I finally got my Homburg Nation membership card. I posted this on the New Hats thread, but was waiting until I had more time to post the details here.

Cavanagh from early to mid 50’s. Ribbon was torn and the sweat is a little fragile, but the felt is immaculate after cleaning. I conditioned the sweat with Neatsfoot Oil and it looks fine now. I’ve removed the ribbon and have a vintage stock replacement on order. It also has some contrasting stitching on the brim that I like.

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Thanks Tim and welcome to the nation ! Great first hommie and you wear it very well! I am sure you will find out soon that homburgs can also be quite versatile as well and match many outfits even if they feel at home with a suit and tie ;)

Compared to my Cav I see the different brim binding but I am also wondering what other things could justify the 5$ difference they had back in the days.

Looking forward to seeing how this will turn out after you finish with it.

Enjoy,
Panos

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Rmccamey

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Welcome to the Nation, Tim. Looks great.

Well I finally got my Homburg Nation membership card. I posted this on the New Hats thread, but was waiting until I had more time to post the details here.

Cavanagh from early to mid 50’s. Ribbon was torn and the sweat is a little fragile, but the felt is immaculate after cleaning. I conditioned the sweat with Neatsfoot Oil and it looks fine now. I’ve removed the ribbon and have a vintage stock replacement on order. It also has some contrasting stitching on the brim that I like.

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Beautiful color on that one Stefan.
Well I finally got my Homburg Nation membership card. I posted this on the New Hats thread, but was waiting until I had more time to post the details here.

Cavanagh from early to mid 50’s. Ribbon was torn and the sweat is a little fragile, but the felt is immaculate after cleaning. I conditioned the sweat with Neatsfoot Oil and it looks fine now. I’ve removed the ribbon and have a vintage stock replacement on order. It also has some contrasting stitching on the brim that I like.

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Thanks, Tim and a great way to enter the homburg nation with that Cavanagh. Excellent hat and it will probably get you hooked on homburgs. That's a good thing of course.
 

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Thanks Tim and welcome to the nation ! Great first hommie and you wear it very well! I am sure you will find out soon that homburgs can also be quite versatile as well and match many outfits even if they feel at home with a suit and tie ;)

Compared to my Cav I see the different brim binding but I am also wondering what other things could justify the 5$ difference they had back in the days.

Looking forward to seeing how this will turn out after you finish with it.

Enjoy,
Panos

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Thanks Panos, I think you're right about the versatility. Of course, I will break it in with a suit and tie first at the Nutcracker Ballet with the Granddaughter !

Your Cavanagh appears to be from the same time frame according to the liner. Do you have any pictures of labels under the sweat for comparison ?
 

Steve1857

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I also found some info on the store it was purchased from - Malmstedt in Minneapolis, MN. Photos from 1902 of Nicollet Ave at Fourth St. Paper from 1903. I haven’t found anything later, so I’m not sure how long they were there.



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Super looking Cavanagh, Tim. Great brim binding, too. Always nice to find info about a hats provenance. Welcome to the Nation [emoji145]

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PanosChris

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Thanks Panos, I think you're right about the versatility. Of course, I will break it in with a suit and tie first at the Nutcracker Ballet with the Granddaughter !

Your Cavanagh appears to be from the same time frame according to the liner. Do you have any pictures of labels under the sweat for comparison ?
That sounds like the perfect occasion for a homburg to be! Looking forward to seeing the complete outfit then ;) I always wear myself one when in opera or concert :)

Indeed same period, difficult to judge felt differences from pics but here are the labels behind the sweatband of mine
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That sounds like the perfect occasion for a homburg to be! Looking forward to seeing the complete outfit then ;) I always wear myself one when in opera or concert :)

Indeed same period, difficult to judge felt differences from pics but here are the labels behind the sweatband of mine
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Thanks, great info. So yours is on a 5064 block, and mine a 5364. The price sticker is different as well. I'll have to do some research.....
 
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P. & C. Habig Wien Hausmarke "Special Qualität Handerbeit", 58 cm, production year 1957 (based on paper label). The felt is heavy in weight but still easily hand creases. The sweatband is really fantastic with a elaborate P. & C. Habig Wien stamping. As usually the overall quality and form are of the highest order. This hat was made for the famous A. Breiter München hat store (still in business today).

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Open Crown

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P. & C. Habig Wien Homburgs were considered the highest of quality in Germany and Austria. I actually discovered that Konrad Adenauer (the first first Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany) wore a P. & C. Habig Wien Homburg (see link).

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/230-gotisches-haus-gothic-house-hat-museum-bad-homburg-vor-der-höhe-germany/?do=findComment&comment=1358
 

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P. & C. Habig Wien Hausmarke "Special Qualität Handerbeit", 58 cm, production year 1957 (based on paper label). The felt is heavy in weight but still easily hand creases. The sweatband is really fantastic with a elaborate P. & C. Habig Wien stamping. As usually the overall quality and form are of the highest order. This hat was made for the famous A. Breiter München hat store (still in business today).

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Open Crown

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P. & C. Habig Wien Homburgs were considered the highest of quality in Germany and Austria. I actually discovered that Konrad Adenauer (the first first Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany) wore a P. & C. Habig Wien Homburg (see link).

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/230-gotisches-haus-gothic-house-hat-museum-bad-homburg-vor-der-höhe-germany/?do=findComment&comment=1358

Simply Beautiful !
 

Steve1857

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P. & C. Habig Wien Hausmarke "Special Qualität Handerbeit", 58 cm, production year 1957 (based on paper label). The felt is heavy in weight but still easily hand creases. The sweatband is really fantastic with a elaborate P. & C. Habig Wien stamping. As usually the overall quality and form are of the highest order. This hat was made for the famous A. Breiter München hat store (still in business today).

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Open Crown

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P. & C. Habig Wien Homburgs were considered the highest of quality in Germany and Austria. I actually discovered that Konrad Adenauer (the first first Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany) wore a P. & C. Habig Wien Homburg (see link).

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/230-gotisches-haus-gothic-house-hat-museum-bad-homburg-vor-der-höhe-germany/?do=findComment&comment=1358
Superb find, Steve. Whenever I see a Homburg, I automatically think of Churchill and Andenauer (Eden and Eisenhower also spring to mind). Habig Homburgs are hard to beat. Congrats.

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Superb find, Steve. Whenever I see a Homburg, I automatically think of Churchill and Andenauer (Eden and Eisenhower also spring to mind). Habig Homburgs are hard to beat. Congrats.

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Steve, Thank you! What is funny is the Gotisches Haus Hat Museum Bad Homburg thought the maker was Hellings Bonn which I told them was actually a hat shop and P. & C. Habig Wien was the hat company that made the hat.
 

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