German & Austrian Hutmachers

[mayserwegener]

Old (1900?) P. & C. Habig hat box (not mine).

 

[150719541]

Hi Steve, nice box,It is a great souvenir, Cheers ¡¡¡¡¡

 

[Michael Carter]

Here is an Austrian Zapf, very nice for stable work and hiking:

I haven't read this entire 27 page thread so my appologies if I missed the answer to my question.

Is there a dealer in the States that sells this brand of hat?

 

[mayserwegener]

There aren't any Zapf dealers in the US.

http://www.zapf.at/home_en.html

NAGY HÜTE (Vienna) has some available by mail order.

http://www.nagy-hut.at/

Zapf makes high quality Trachten style hats.

 

[mayserwegener]

Hi Steve, nice box,It is a great souvenir, Cheers ¡¡¡¡¡

Unfortunately not mine.

 

[danofarlington]

I haven't read this entire 27 page thread so my appologies if I missed the answer to my question.

Is there a dealer in the States that sells this brand of hat?

I doubt it.

 

[mayserwegener]

Maysers silk Top Hat (Zylinderhut) size 59cm arrived yesterday. It has some wear but not bad for the price plus rarity. This is the first pre WWII Mayser hat (of any type) I have encountered. I am thinking this one is early 1900s. The "Form:" on the paper label is "1915" which might be the production year. The box is in very poor condition but original.

 

[mayserwegener]

Hi folks,

a few months ago I was invited to visit the hat "factory" of a friend in Vienna.
I thought you might enjoy seeing some of their tools and products, so here are the pictures.

http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/oberland001/muehlbauer_huete/

the company is called "Mühlbauer" and is a family-owned business for many generations, who still make their hats in the center of Vienna.

Hope you enjoy the pictures, despite my obvious limitations as a photographer.

http://www.muehlbauer.at/modules.php?set_albumName=albuo06&op=modload&name=Katalog&file=index&include=view_album.php

 

[le.gentleman]

Do you know whether Muehlbauer offers Bowlers? An Austrian friend of mine os looking for one at the moment and this store could be a good source for him.

That top hat is in pretty bad shape But like you said, it is a vintage one and the good ones usually go for at least 200€ on ebay...

 

[mayserwegener]

They may have something they call a Bowler. I would go vintage because the art of making Bowlers (Derbies, Melones) died in the early 1960s.

Yes it is in pretty bad shape but it is an old Mayser. This is the first pre WWII Mayser of any type (Fedora, Homburg, Bowler, ect) I have encountered.

 

[davidraphael]

This is my latest acquisition. Apparently it's hardly worn, if at all - there's not a mark on it. It's a late 1950s/early 60s (70s?) fur (long hair felt? velour?). Must have cost a fortune at the time. Brand new, hats like this go for a couple of hundred at least in central Europe. I saw a new simple felt one today in Heidelberg, unlined and it was 100euro.
It's Austrian, but is typical of hats found all over the German/Austrian-Tyrolean/Swiss Alpine region. It's a hybrid style (?) - it's traditional Austrian/German style ( the cords instead of a ribbon, for example), without being completely Austrian, and instead leans towards a trilby-ish style. (I might actually have a ribbon fitted instead of the cords).

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In answer to Mayserwegener, yes, the liner is stitched in.

 

[150719541]

The German style is very nice, it looks very well, put your picture using it in: What are you wearing today, sure suit you well ¡¡¡¡

 

[Quixote]

Here's a hat I stumbled into the other day in a thrift store. I paid €8 for it.

Soft, supple fur felt and leather; undamaged and unmarked - apart from the previous owner's initials JG. It was very crumpled, but I salvaged the shape with steam. The manufacturer is Möckel of Bad Homburg, the hatter that invented the homburg, I understand. The colour is a near-black graphite, and the lining is silvery.

Pardon me for the image quality... I had to resort to my Nokia.

 

[mayserwegener]

Nice find! Looks like it is from the 1960s. I have seen a couple from this time period pop on eBay but in smaller sizes. Möckel patented the original Homburg hat. The only really old ones I have come across are Toppers. Would kill for an early Homburg.

In 1806 pH. Möckel was founded in 1806 Bad Homburg, Germany. A industrialized hat factory was started by Phillip Möckel in 1856.

A hat called Homburg
The Prince of Wales, who later became King Edward VII of England, and Konrad Adenauer, the first Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany, have one thing in common: their love of the Homburg. The former created it, the latter then turned it into a fashionable hat in more recent times. During his visits to Homburg, the English Prince occasionally met his nephew, Kaiser Wilhelm II., who liked to wear a special hunting uniform, which comprised, amongst other things, a green hat with the brim rolled slightly inwards on one side. Edward, who had the reputation of being one of the best-dressed men at the close of the 19th century, decided to have the hat made in an elegant shade of grey – by the Homburg-based hat manufacturers Möckel, who were even awarded a patent for their “Homburg”. The new hat quickly took the world of men’s fashions by storm, surpassing the stiff top hat and bowler hat that had until then been the usual mode of attire. The lightweight, casually-elegant “Homburg” was representative of the new joy of living. Later on, the “Homburg” was also manufactured in blue and black, although Adenauer always preferred the original grey.

 

[rlk]

P. & C. Habig Katalog

 

[mayserwegener]

Fantastic! It would be great to see every page! I want the Velour in the middle of the first page of hats!

 

[150719541]

Steve & Robert, thanks, the information is fine.¡¡¡¡¡

 

[danofarlington]

This is my latest acquisition. Apparently it's hardly worn, if at all - there's not a mark on it. It's a late 1950s/early 60s (70s?) fur (long hair felt? velour?). Must have cost a fortune at the time. Brand new, hats like this go for a couple of hundred at least in central Europe. I saw a new simple felt one today in Heidelberg, unlined and it was 100euro.
It's Austrian, but is typical of hats found all over the German/Austrian-Tyrolean/Swiss Alpine region. It's a hybrid style (?) - it's traditional Austrian/German style ( the cords instead of a ribbon, for example), without being completely Austrian, and instead leans towards a trilby-ish style. (I might actually have a ribbon fitted instead of the cords).

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To me, it has more the look of a 70s hat, because of the velour and shaping.

 

[mayserwegener]

Since the liner is stitched in I would say early to mid 1960s but it could be a bit later. You usually see a transition to glued liners with German and Austrian hats around the mid to late 1960s. If it was me I wouldn't change anything on the hat.

 

[mayserwegener]

Johann Hückel´s Söhne Super Sport Alpine style hat. This is one is an old and very rare. Robert (RLK) found it a while back and alerted me. I didn't bid on it because of the small size and very high starting price but I thought it was worth posting. It has to be at least 1930s maybe older. Not sure who ended up with it.