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Super find! This one looks like 1930s. There is no company mark. It has French on the paper label so maybe French Velour but hard to know since the felt could have been sourced elsewhere. What is the shop on the sweatband? The Velour looks of high quality.A recent arrival to AZ, seller purchased in Switzerland in 1958. It’s a fairly nice clean black velour with 2 3/8 raw edge brim. Hopefully @mayserwegener or others can shed some light on its origins.
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Super! This is from Franz Gober München. They were a famous supplier so probably made by one of the Bavarian Velour makers. Is the liner stitched in?View attachment 260993 View attachment 260994 View attachment 260995 View attachment 260996 Another one I can find very little info on that maybe some here can also shed some light on. Brown/green Meisterklasse also 2 3/8 brim.
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Here’s a pic of sweatbandSuper find! This one looks like 1930s. There is no company mark. It has French on the paper label so maybe French Velour but hard to know since the felt could have been sourced elsewhere. What is the shop on the sweatband? The Velour looks of high quality.
Yes the liner is stitched in..no markings on this sweatbandSuoer! This is from Franz Gober München. They were a famous supplier so probably made by one of the Bavarian Velour makers. Is the liner stitched in?
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/57-franz-gober-münchen-f-g-m/
The example you provided in the link is indeed very similar looking as well as the paper label, thank you for the information sirSuoer! This is from Franz Gober München. They were a famous supplier so probably made by one of the Bavarian Velour makers. Is the liner stitched in?
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/57-franz-gober-münchen-f-g-m/
It's probably mid to later 1950s.Yes the liner is stitched in..no markings on this sweatband
Yes that liner is stitched in as wellIt's probably mid to later 1950s.
It's in the Miesbacher hut style.The example you provided in the link is indeed very similar looking as well as the paper label, thank you for the information sir
The store has Herrenmode so German focused. Have no idea who made the Velour hat but as mentioned the paper label has French. Look forward to seeing it in action.Here’s a pic of sweatband
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Thank you for the information. I’m amazed at the vast resourceful amount of knowledge you have with these German-Austrian hats. It is a very well made quality velour fedora that I look forward to wearing when it cools down a bit more here in AZThe store has Herrenmode so German focused. Have no idea who made the Velour hat but as mentioned the paper label has French. Look forward to seeing it in action.
The store has Herrenmode so German focused. Have no idea who made the Velour hat but as mentioned the paper label has French. Look forward to seeing it in action.
Matt, Yes it's a bunch of things. Also the use of CM instead of French Point for size on the paper label. I would say Luzern/Lucerne proper has some French mix but probably irrelevant in this case. I do have some lists of Swiss Hat Companies but with no company mark probably looking at another unsolved mystery.Lucerne is located in Switzerland and is the capital of the German-speaking canton of the same name.
In contrast, the western cantons (Vaud, Valais, Neuchâtel, etc.) are traditionally French in character.
The "EXTRA" can come from any language (German, French, Italian, ...), so it does not give any indication.
The surrounding "GRAN LUSSO" is Italian, which is also spoken in a small southern part of Switzerland.
But maybe this was just a "marketing strategy" - a comparison with the high quality Borsalinos etc.!?
Or we do have a hat in front of us, which is made in the "French-German-Italien mixed" Switzerland?
Or maybe it is really a hat from France that got its finish in Switzerland - sold in German speaking Luzern?
Does the size sign tell us anything? YES: international!
59 - German
6 - Italian/French
7 1/4 - British
I’ll try but it’s an unreeded sweat and some stitching already undone plus a tear started. I’ll see what I can do. Thanks for the helpful info you’ve provided. It is a very nice quality velour and evidently a little unique.PS: Unfortunately the piece of paper is missing at "Qual",
but would the complete handwritten "Velour" tell us more!?
Also the stain at "Coul." bothers me so much,
that I originally read "Weiss" (white) - old "r" looks like modern "s".
But since that does not fit at all I think it is "Noir".
Maybe it is possible to take an even better photo without destroying the seam?
I looked at it with magnifying glass, couldn’t make anything but then again I’m not sure what I’m looking for. Here it is again with a flash and enlarged.PS: Unfortunately the piece of paper is missing at "Qual",
but would the complete handwritten "Velour" tell us more!?
Also the stain at "Coul." bothers me so much,
that I originally read "Weiss" (white) - old "r" looks like modern "s".
But since that does not fit at all I think it is "Noir".
Maybe it is possible to take an even better photo without destroying the seam?