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Thanks for the links, Steve. Your site is really invaluable.
Apart from the bow, Daniele's reminds me very much of mine.
I remember yours from when you originally posted it. Wonderful colour and finish on it. I bet Robin Hood would be green with envy
Steve, Thanks! Yes that one is a vivid green and I am sure worn for folk festivals. Here is another JHS "Prima". It's from an old auction that had decent photos.

https://germanaustrianhats.invision...tfabrik-weilheim/?do=findComment&comment=1110
 
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18,443
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Echter Mayser homburg in grey. Size 58 with the brim at a good 5,5cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. A few nicks but it seems hardly ever worn (basting stitches are still on the ribbon). No label under the sweat, so not much to go on. Joh Schnell Nachf. of Koblenz was founded in 1806 (!) and is still around today. The sweatband mentions its 150th anniversary, which would make it 1956, but the sweatband is dated 19-12-1961, which usually means the selling date. Could have sat on the shelf for 5 years, but who would leave a good looking hat like this there? Interesting that the liner is already glued in on this one (German manufacturers did that very early on).

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Mayser fedora in brown. Size 60 with the bound brim at 6cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. Very thin felt with a nice hand, which made me buy it. Sold by Ernst of Köln, who also sold hats under his store brand name of Esko. The label mentions Aachen, which is likely the model name (the colours are numbered). My guess is late sixties to mid seventies for this one.

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Hora "Münster" velour in grey. Size 57 with the raw edge brim at 5cm and the crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Never heard of the brand before, but the felt is great and aside from some staining on the liner the hat is in excellent condition. Judging by the sweatband my thought is pre-war. German made, because it has a German label. Colour is called "eis" (ice).

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Wilke velour called "Bürstel Electra" in blue. Fedora in size 58 with the raw edge brim at 5,5cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. The label says 7, but the measurements add up to a size 58. The blue colour is called "schwalbe" (swallow) on the label. I'm thinking 1930's. Steve @mayserwegener has one on his website in grey. Same model with the loose bow ends. I do find Wilke hats on a regular basis, but they're always the later ones (sixties most likely). This was a nice change, both in style and colour. The hand of the felt is wonderful and the condition is excellent. Just look at that colour.
Otto Döppe of Rostock is in business since at least 1910, but I don't think the hat is that early.

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Wilke velour called "Bürstel Electra" in blue. Fedora in size 57 with the raw edge brim at 5,5cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. The blue colour is called "schwalbe" (swallow) on the label. I'm thinking 1930's. Steve @mayserwegener has one on his website in grey. Same model with the loose bow ends. I do find Wilke hats on a regular basis, but they're always the later ones (sixties most likely). This was a nice change, both in style and colour. The hand of the felt is wonderful and the condition is excellent. Just look at that colour.
Otto Döppe of Rostock is in business since at least 1910, but I don't think the hat is that early.

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Stefan, Fantastic find! This a real C.G. Wilke from Guben. I think it's 1930s (probably later) too. The color and finish are super. Also great condition.
 
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Echter Mayser homburg in grey. Size 58 with the brim at a good 5,5cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. A few nicks but it seems hardly ever worn (basting stitches are still on the ribbon). No label under the sweat, so not much to go on. Joh Schnell Nachf. of Koblenz was founded in 1806 (!) and is still around today. The sweatband mentions its 150th anniversary, which would make it 1956, but the sweatband is dated 19-12-1961, which usually means the selling date. Could have sat on the shelf for 5 years, but who would leave a good looking hat like this there? Interesting that the liner is already glued in on this one (German manufacturers did that very early on).

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Stefan, Super! I think the 1961 date is more accurate. Based on parts (liner, sweatband) and the liner being glued in. Mayser started doing that around 1960.
 

Steve1857

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That's a very nice looking Mayser Homburg, Stefan. Sold a month before I was born. Is that a sign?

Echter Mayser homburg in grey. Size 58 with the brim at a good 5,5cm and the crown at 11cm at the center dent. A few nicks but it seems hardly ever worn (basting stitches are still on the ribbon). No label under the sweat, so not much to go on. Joh Schnell Nachf. of Koblenz was founded in 1806 (!) and is still around today. The sweatband mentions its 150th anniversary, which would make it 1956, but the sweatband is dated 19-12-1961, which usually means the selling date. Could have sat on the shelf for 5 years, but who would leave a good looking hat like this there? Interesting that the liner is already glued in on this one (German manufacturers did that very early on).

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Stefan, Fantastic find! This a real C.G. Wilke from Guben. I think it's 1930s (probably later) too. The color and finish are super. Also great condition.
Thank you, Steve. Yes, this was the catch of the day for sure!
Stefan, Super! I think the 1961 date is more accurate. Based on parts (liner, sweatband) and the liner being glued in. Mayser started doing that around 1960.
Thanks again. I'm always happy when I find these dates on sweatbands. Helps getting a better understanding of what I'm looking at with other hats too. It is very likely that Joh Schnell used his 150 year existence as a selling point for several years.
 
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Hora "Münster" velour in grey. Size 57 with the raw edge brim at 5cm and the crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Never heard of the brand before, but the felt is great and aside from some staining on the liner the hat is in excellent condition. Judging by the sweatband my thought is pre-war. German made, because it has a German label. Colour is called "eis" (ice).

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Stefan, Really fantastic! I think it was made by Wegener. The paper label type and format is the same. Also the sweatband bow type.

https://germanaustrianhats.invision...egener-hutfabrik/?do=findComment&comment=2369
 

Steve1857

I'll Lock Up
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Nice find, Stefan. The hat liner has a Tonak look to it.

Hora "Münster" velour in grey. Size 57 with the raw edge brim at 5cm and the crown at 10,5cm at the center dent. Never heard of the brand before, but the felt is great and aside from some staining on the liner the hat is in excellent condition. Judging by the sweatband my thought is pre-war. German made, because it has a German label. Colour is called "eis" (ice).

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Steco Echt Velour in grey. Model is called "Saale" and the colour is "grafit". Raw edge brim at 5,5cm and the crown 10cm at the center dent. Size is 55, but it fits me perfectly. Unreeded sweatband and a fabulous liner in this one (I think Steve has a similar one his website). Sweatband printing says EMA "Schutz Marke" (top) and "Gut zieht an!" (below).

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Part II
Label says "Vel(our) Seal".

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I just noticed how similar it is to the Hora Münster velour hat I posted recently. So similar in fact that it has to be from the same maker, which is likely Wegener. To compare here's the label of the Hora:
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Side by side:
Hora
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Steco (a bit lighter in colour)
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The liners are similar too: slightly darker on the sides and a lighter coloured top part.
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Steve1857

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Super find, Stefan.

Steco Echt Velour in grey. Model is called "Saale" and the colour is "grafit". Raw edge brim at 5,5cm and the crown 10cm at the center dent. Size is 55, but it fits me perfectly. Unreeded sweatband and a fabulous liner in this one (I think Steve has a similar one his website). Sweatband printing says EMA "Schutz Marke" (top) and "Gut zieht an!" (below).

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