German & Austrian Hutmachers

[mayserwegener]

Frank, Endel & Peles, Manufacturers & Importers, New York City (American Hatter, Vol. 41, 1912)

Impressive list of German and Austrian Hat companies.

 

[Redfokker]

Frank, Endel & Peles, Manufacturers & Importers, New York City (American Hatter, Vol. 41, 1912)

Impressive list of German and Austrian Hat companies.

I would be in the line at their door!

 

[mayserwegener]

Yes me too. A couple years later the situation changed because of WWI. Velours remained popular but there was a heavy war tariff which made them very expensive.

 

[mayserwegener]

Phillip Neubauer Berlin - Charlottenburg, no paper label, 132 grams, probably 1930s. Similar sweatband to a J. Heinr. JTA Wien (date stamped 1939) made for Phillip Neubauer Berlin but that could be store specific.

 

[TheDane]

I'm not much into bowlers, but that one sure is a sweet specimen, Steve! I'm a sucker for old liner-prints like this one. Do you have any idea, what technique was used?

 

[mayserwegener]

Ole, Good to hear from you and thanks!

Here is a photo of the Johann Hückel´s Söhne Printing department and some old plates I found.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionz...e-hückel-hutfabrik-weilheim/page-10#entry1244

My friend that is a portrait engraver (Bureau of Printing and Engraving) said the presses "are sort of die stamper variant".

 

[Joshbru3]

Ole, Good to hear from you and thanks!

Here is a photo of the Johann Hückel´s Söhne Printing department and some old plates I found.

http://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/6-johann-hückel´s-söhne-hückel-hutfabrik-weilheim/page-10#entry1244

My friend that is a portrait engraver (Bureau of Printing and Engraving) said the presses "are sort of die stamper variant".

I am really interested in this, Steve. I have always been fascinated with pre-ww2 hat liners and how incredibly intricate the detail was. From the pictures, it appears that brass (not rubber) ink dies were made and the flat liner sheets were laid onto a flat press. The ink was applied, stamp was placed in the center, and the flat press came down using a set amount of pressure. What is interesting is that many of these old hat liners do not appear to have any embossing of the fabric, which leads me to believe that the press used a very small amount of force to stamp the ink on the liners. If any amount of force was used, it would have torn the fabric or at least embossed it. Especially using brass stamps. I always assumed the stamps were rubber because I associated brass stamps for leather work.

 

[mayserwegener]

Josh, I have a large number of these liner plates. I was going to print some with my engraver friend (mentioned above) but haven't got around to it. When I visited Zapf they also had a collection.

 

[Chepstow]

Thumbs up, Steve! The liner plates are awesome!


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[mayserwegener]

Manfred, Thanks! Hope all is well.

 

[TheDane]

Thank you Steve. I have quite a number of images of those old liners - many of which I have saved from the "Sweet Liners" thread. I will skype my old friend Svend in Nashville. He runs a small business, doing embossing and printing. He mostly do foil-printing, but he may very well know something about this too. After all, he's working with century old techniques and machinery

Even not so much Austrian or German, I hope you will enjoy a recap of a few of the old beauties I have saved:

 

[mayserwegener]

It appears the Krause presses in the JHS are for gilding. I am not sure if they could be used for normal printing. A JHS gilded liner.

 

[TheDane]

It appears the Krause presses in the JHS are for gilding. I am not sure if they could be used for normal printing. A JHS gilded liner.

Steve, that's the sort of printing my friend in Nashville does. It's a gold-foil-print, and you clearly see the pressing marks. Not exactly what I have in mind

 

[mayserwegener]

Thank you Steve. I have quite a number of images of those old liners - many of which I have saved from the "Sweet Liners" thread. I will skype my old friend Svend in Nashville. He runs a small business, doing embossing and printing. He mostly do foil-printing, but he may very well know something about this too. After all, he's working with century old techniques and machinery

Even not so much Austrian or German, I hope you will enjoy a recap of a few of the old beauties I have saved:
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Yes those are great. You don't see such printing after WWII.

Here is a really fantastic gilded liner by JHS.

This is a later combination of gilding and dye.

 

[mayserwegener]

Steve, that's the sort of printing my friend in Nashville does. It's a gold-foil-print, and you clearly see the pressing marks. Not exactly what I have in mind

Yes I was just commenting on the Krause presses in the JHS photo. JHS also produced such dye printed liners.

I am fairly certain the some of the plates I have were also used for printing because they still have dye residue.

 

[mayserwegener]

I am guessing this old JHS plate of mine would be able to produce such a dye printed liner. I will check with my friend.

 

[TheDane]

They are all beautiful, Steve - but I like the last one the most. In spite of "just" one color on white/cream, it seems so much more exclusive and elegant ... or maybe even because of the (apparent) simplicity(?)

If it's of any interest, this is a couple of the beautiful old German machines, Svend uses for his color and metal foil printing. One pic is of him and his son, Nikolai, setting up a job - and in the last one he's trying to ease the job and please the old quirky machines' with some soothing old-time fiddle. An extremely skilled craftsman/artisan, bonding with the souls of his machines

 

[mayserwegener]

Yes I can see what you mean. JHS did both but their signature appears to be gilding.

The presses look great. Here is one of my friends old bank note presses. I have helped him print engravings. He is also knows about all types of printing so I am asking him again (for example I have a print he made of the pen & ink drawing in the background).

 

[TheDane]

Here is one of my friends old bank note presses

I'm beginning to understand the vastness of your collection. Can he do European notes too?

Gorgeous machine! I have written Svend with a link to this conversation, so he knows what I'm talking about, when I call him in a day or two.

 

[mayserwegener]

Here a couple favorites from my collection.