For sale m445 size 42 in new unworn condition.

[John Lever]

For sale m445 size 42 in new unworn condition.
Light flexible practical jacket, no breaking in required. Talon zip, beautiful fleece, seal brown goatskin trim.
Very nice jacket.
Measurements
Pit to pit 23 inches/58 cm
Shoulders 20/51 cm
Arm length 26/66cm
Back length 26/66cm

This is a large 42. It fits me with room for layering. I am 5. 10, 165 pounds. Or 1.78m, 75 kg.
All dimensions are approximate.

Asking price 450 gbp plus costs. PP f/f please

 

[Bfd70]

Gorgeous jacket. I think you forgot to include the price.

 

[NamoAmituofo]

That is a beauty! What’s the price please

 

[John Lever]

Cheers mate.
This is new as stated. I think I paid about 80 to 100 gbp (not euros) import duty on top of the purchase price so it cost me about 700 euros.
Obviously import duty is based on the stated price.

 

[John Lever]

Just to be clear this is a new unworn jacket

 

[Bender]

Who's the maker?

 

[Marc mndt]

Who's the maker?

I shared a link to the AVI leather webshop because I thought it might be of interest to prospective buyers but for some reason it was removed. Are buyers not allowed to know who made this jacket?

 

[Bender]

I shared a link to the AVI leather webshop because I thought it might be of interest to prospective buyers but for some reason it was removed. Are buyers not allowed to know who made this jacket?

Perhaps posting links is frowned upon?

Probably easier for the OP to just to put it in the title anyway, for example: "Avi Leather m445 size 42 in new unworn condition".

They can also skip the "for sale" bit, as that's implied in a classifieds thread...

Anyway, good luck with the sale, OP!

 

[John Lever]

Sorry, some of the text got cropped when I copied it from Vintage Leather Jackets.
Sold by Avileather Denmark but made in China. The workmanship is very good I would say.
Asking price is now reduced to 400 gbp plus costs please.
New never worn.

 

[John Lever]

Perhaps posting links is frowned upon?

Probably easier just to put it in the title anyway, for example: "Avi Leather m445 size 42 in new unworn condition".

You can also skip the "for sale" bit, as that's implied in a classifieds thread...

Anyway, good luck with the sale!

I tried to edit the title but was unable to do so.
I complained to the mods about one of the replies in the thread. It was negative and implied that I was being greedy in the asking price. I have sold many jackets in the couple of decades I have been a member here and like to think I have been willing contributor to the forum by sharing images of my collection and by advising others.
I actually bought this jacket just so I could review it and have done this with jackets loned to me in the past by Ken Calder.
Thanks

 

[Marc mndt]

They can also skip the "for sale" bit, as that's implied in a classifieds thread...

There are also 'want to buy' listings from people who are looking to buy a specific item. Therefore I think It's good practice to have the distinction in the title.

I have sold many jackets in the couple of decades I have been a member here and like to think I have been willing contributor to the forum by sharing images of my collection and by advising others.

That may be so but that doesn't change the fact that you listed a jacket without mentioning the maker, initially asking a significantly higher price than what it would cost someone from the US to buy the jacket brand new from the AVI webstore today.

I tried to edit the title but was unable to do so.

You had the opportunity to ask the mods to change it for you while you were complaining about the post that clarified what it is that you are selling.

I actually bought this jacket just so I could review it

Where can I find the review? I've searched but I cannot find it in the outerwear section.

 

[Peter Mackin]

I like it,especially as it's not the dreadful broken grain.i do agree that posts shouldn't be removed, unless they are defamatory, if they are accurate I think they should remain.
Jacket was reviewed 9th oct 2023.

 

[John Lever]

Peter
The post was basically ' don't buy this jacket'
Not reasonable in my book

 

[Peter Mackin]

Peter
The post was basically ' don't buy this jacket'
Not reasonable in my book

That's not reasonable, it's unacceptable.

 

[ton312]

Peter
The post was basically ' don't buy this jacket'
Not reasonable in my book

I didn’t read it that way. It was a post linking the same jacket you have for sale, new with tags, from the retailer, for essentially the same price.

Since your original listing did not contain that pertinent information, it was pointed out. All of which easily could’ve been avoided with an accurate title/description.

 

[John Lever]

There are also 'want to buy' listings from people who are looking to buy a specific item. Therefore I think It's good practice to have the distinction in the title.


That may be so but that doesn't change the fact that you listed a jacket without mentioning the maker, initially asking a significantly higher price than what it would cost someone from the US to buy the jacket brand new from the AVI webstore today.


You had the opportunity to ask the mods to change it for you while you were complaining about the post that clarified what it is that you are selling.


Where can I find the review? I've searched but I cannot find it in the

I didn’t read it that way. It was a post linking the samyou have for sale, new with tags, from the retailer, for essentially the same price.

Since your original listing did not contain that pertinent information, it was pointed out. All of which easily could’ve been avoided with an accurate title/description.

The price was not essentially the same price as it did not include the duties paid on it and handling charges.
450 gbp plus postage , is that too much do you think ?
Also why assume that a potential buyer would be in the US ? It might be someone in the UK.
Any mistakes were just that as I really never had any intention to mislead anyone, as I have been buying and selling on this forum for nearly 20 years.
Maybe it's time to move on.

 

[Marc mndt]

Peter
The post was basically ' don't buy this jacket'
Not reasonable in my book

By not disclosing the maker it opens the possibility to take advantage of the uninformed buyer, who could alternatively get this jacket brand new for the same or even a lower price directly from the retailer.

Not very chique in my book.

 

[Marc mndt]

The price was not essentially the same price as it did not include the duties paid on it and handling charges.
450 gbp plus postage , is that too much do you think ?
Also why assume that a potential buyer would be in the US ? It might be someone in the UK.

Buyers from outside of the European union do not pay VAT, hence the actual purchase price is €479,20.

American citizens do not pay import fees or VAT on purchases that have a value of less then $800.

So for someone from the US buying this jacket directly from AVI leathers it'll cost €479,20 shipping included.

Meanwhile you've listed the jacket here for €540 excluding shipping.

 

[John Lever]

OK I didn't know that but not everyone lives in the USA. I based my price on what it cost me that's all.
So Marc with all your interest do you want to buy it ?

 

[John Lever]

So Marc are you saying I was deliberately trying to decieve , when you knew all along it was an Avileather m445 ?
Anyone with an ounce of knowledge about these jackets can tell immediately that it is not a high end jacket from The Few or Real McCoy's.