Footwear to go with our jackets

[Ayeteael]

I'm lucky today @Ayeteael im in talks with onderhoud to make me a black horse butt engineer boot lol he just random replied to my message from way back when and now here I am ordering another boot I probably won't wear enough haha

Congrats, man! He makes a fantastic engineer boot. There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to who he responds to. It pays to be lucky!

Also, black is the way to go for that first engineer. That's what I'm doing. I ordered my FP engineers back in Sept and based on Peng's original estimates I was hoping to get them in February, but I've not heard anything from him so who knows where I'm at in his queue.

 

[Ayeteael]

Obligatory boot and jacket post:

 

[Jin431]

Congrats, man! He makes a fantastic engineer boot. There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to who he responds to. It pays to be lucky!

Also, black is the way to go for that first engineer. That's what I'm doing. I ordered my FP engineers back in Sept and based on Peng's original estimates I was hoping to get them in February, but I've not heard anything from him so who knows where I'm at in his queue.

He sure does make a nice looking pair. So fortunate that he will agree to do a custom pair for me. I like his monkey boots as well but I already have that with FP so an engineer boot it is. I know the leather will be easy to wear too but I hope the last and size he recommends are a great fit on me.

I wanted to pick the brown Maryam horse butt but went with black instead for my first engineer boot just to see if I'll like wearing them. I hope you get it soon, he just posted a cool looking one on his Instagram story.

How did you pick out your boot size with FP and onderhoud?

Obligatory boot and jacket post:

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That HWM looks great on you! Glad that trade worked out for both parties.

Love the chelseas! I think I should have picked unstructured toe box for mine but I still like how it turned out.

 

[Ayeteael]

He sure does make a nice looking pair. So fortunate that he will agree to do a custom pair for me. I like his monkey boots as well but I already have that with FP so an engineer boot it is. I know the leather will be easy to wear too but I hope the last and size he recommends are a great fit on me.

I wanted to pick the brown Maryam horse butt but went with black instead for my first engineer boot just to see if I'll like wearing them. I hope you get it soon, he just posted a cool looking one on his Instagram story.

How did you pick out your boot size with FP and onderhoud?



That HWM looks great on you! Glad that trade worked out for both parties.

Love the chelseas! I think I should have picked unstructured toe box for mine but I still like how it turned out.

Thanks, man. For sizing, I sent them both measurements (length, ball, instep) and the sizing I take in different boots. I'm relying on their expertise and pray they both fit when they arrive.

 

[Jin431]

Thanks, man. For sizing, I sent them both measurements (length, ball, instep) and the sizing I take in different boots. I'm relying on their expertise and pray they both fit when they arrive.

Okay I'll do the same! It's like the initial benzein process. Thank you

 

[Ayeteael]

Okay I'll do the same! It's like the initial benzein process. Thank you

One clarification. Rizky asked for measurements but Peng didnt. I sent them to Peng anyway to ease my own mind. I've got a wide foot with prior foot injuries and I've yet to find that perfect last. I've come close, but I'm still waiting for that holy grail. I'm in the queue for a special maker for a full bespoke pair of boots, but that won't come until 2023.

 

[Jin431]

One clarification. Rizky asked for measurements but Peng didnt. I sent them to Peng anyway to ease my own mind. I've got a wide foot with prior foot injuries and I've yet to find that perfect last. I've come close, but I'm still waiting for that holy grail. I'm in the queue for a special maker for a full bespoke pair of boots, but that won't come until 2023.

Noted, I'll just slam them messages and pray it works out lol

Okaaay a full bespoke shoe maker! Is this role club or one of those Japanese specialist?

 

[Ayeteael]

Neither. Lee Miller of Texas Traditions in Austin. He's got a 4 year waiting list. He's considered one of the finest, if not the finest, bootmaker in the US. His work is incredible.

 

[Jin431]

Neither. Lee Miller of Texas Traditions in Austin. He's got a 4 year waiting list. He's considered one of the finest, if not the finest, bootmaker in the US. His work is incredible.

Have not heard of this guy before but a 4 year wait time is crazy haha I'll look him up. His Instagram is private so I can't see his work but is it a western boot you are after?

 

[Ayeteael]

Have not heard of this guy before but a 4 year wait time is crazy haha I'll look him up. His Instagram is private so I can't see his work but is it a western boot you are after?

Ya they're cowboy boots. I picked my first pair 7 or so years ago and have been hooked since. More comfortable than they look and more versatile than I expected. Plus you've got the historical significance and I live in the South where they're ubiquitous.

 

[Jin431]

Ya they're cowboy boots. I picked my first pair 7 or so years ago and have been hooked since. More comfortable than they look and more versatile than I expected. Plus you've got the historical significance and I live in the South where they're ubiquitous.

That's true, it's a very cool looking style of boots and should fit right where you live. Always liked them too, if I like the engineers a lot I'll probably look into one of these.

 

[red devil]

I am getting quite heated about boots since I ordered the Benzein chelsea

So onderhoud is knowm for engineers and the monkey boots? How does he compare to Benzein?

@Ayeteael , who else would you recommend for a top end pair of westerns? I would like a nice hand tooled pair

Edit: if I still wanted to put my name down with Lee Miller of Texas Traditions, what is the best point of contact?

 

[Ayeteael]

I am getting quite heated about boots since I ordered the Benzein chelsea

So onderhoud is knowm for engineers and the monkey boots? How does he compare to Benzein?

@Ayeteael , who else would you recommend for a top end pair of westerns? I would like a nice hand tooled pair

Edit: if I still wanted to put my name down with Lee Miller of Texas Traditions, what is the best point of contact?

With cowboy boots, I've only had experience with Lucchese. I don't own any custom boots yet, but Lucchese is generally regarded as a good maker. Their "1883" line is on the lower price point, while their "Classics" line are more expensive and made in El Paso. Boots made in America command a premium, but I still enjoy my boots made in Mexico, and they're excellent value.(https://www.gearpatrol.com/style/a640015/mexicos-shoemaking-history/)

There are many excellent bootmakers and I'm no expert, but I've also read great things about Rios of Mercedes and I purchased a pair of Heritage Boots while in Austin for my wife. I've also been tempted to pick up a pair of Tecovas, since they incorporated the direct-to-consumer model with boots.

If you want to go custom, check this out from Texas Monthly:
https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/25-top-custom-bootmakers/

Re Texas Traditions specifically, I initially reached out via Instagram and was directed to call or email them. Contact info:
Texas Traditions
Lee Miller Boots
2222 College Avenue
Austin, Texas 78704-5206
TexasTraditions@mac.com
512-443-4447

Good luck.

 

[Ayeteael]

@Psant25 should chime in re cowboy boots. He's had success with custom makers in Texas.

 

[Psant25]

I love my honcho boots they are great value. Their website and IG is horrible and does not show what they can do.

rios of Mercedes is another quality brand and olathe makes good boots i think owned by the same company

i follow on IG heritage boots, parker boots, rocketbuster, too many to count really there are a lot of small boot makers around the US

i tried a pair of lucchese ropers non classic line and returned them. They had i think a cardboard lining. And price wise i would rather get another honcho pair

liberty boot, stallion boots, black jack boots...

 

[Pandemic]

How much do the Onderhoud engineer boots go for, delivered? They certainly have a more refined profile than Wesos.

 

[Jin431]

I am getting quite heated about boots since I ordered the Benzein chelsea

So onderhoud is knowm for engineers and the monkey boots? How does he compare to Benzein?

@Ayeteael , who else would you recommend for a top end pair of westerns? I would like a nice hand tooled pair

Edit: if I still wanted to put my name down with Lee Miller of Texas Traditions, what is the best point of contact?

Benzein makes great stuff (to me personally as I have 3 boots from them with another 1 on order) and they use really sought after leather that's why I always go back to them.

Hmm I think part of the allure of getting a pair from onderhoud is because of he was once a one man company (he now has a few people that work for him) and there's that little bit of exclusivity/long queue because of word of mouth from instagram boot influencers. I think the engineers and the monkey boots he does are exceptional, he also does a great looking packed boot and boondockers though.

Look up flame panda, he makes great stuff too. I think his 102 last looks similar to your blue canvas clinch boots. I ordered a black horsebutt for that specific boot.

With cowboy boots, I've only had experience with Lucchese. I don't own any custom boots yet, but Lucchese is generally regarded as a good maker. Their "1883" line is on the lower price point, while their "Classics" line are more expensive and made in El Paso. Boots made in America command a premium, but I still enjoy my boots made in Mexico, and they're excellent value.(https://www.gearpatrol.com/style/a640015/mexicos-shoemaking-history/)

There are many excellent bootmakers and I'm no expert, but I've also read great things about Rios of Mercedes and I purchased a pair of Heritage Boots while in Austin for my wife. I've also been tempted to pick up a pair of Tecovas, since they incorporated the direct-to-consumer model with boots.

If you want to go custom, check this out from Texas Monthly:
https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/25-top-custom-bootmakers/

Re Texas Traditions specifically, I initially reached out via Instagram and was directed to call or email them. Contact info:
Texas Traditions
Lee Miller Boots
2222 College Avenue
Austin, Texas 78704-5206
TexasTraditions@mac.com
512-443-4447

Good luck.

Hmmm all these talks about western boots. . .

I love my honcho boots they are great value. Their website and IG is horrible and does not show what they can do.

rios of Mercedes is another quality brand and olathe makes good boots i think owned by the same company

i follow on IG heritage boots, parker boots, rocketbuster, too many to count really there are a lot of small boot makers around the US

i tried a pair of lucchese ropers non classic line and returned them. They had i think a cardboard lining. And price wise i would rather get another honcho pair

liberty boot, stallion boots, black jack boots...

Love those brown honchos. I live in CA, in the west coast so I can justify having a western boot, right? Right? Lol

How much do the Onderhoud engineer boots go for, delivered? They certainly have a more refined profile than Wesos.

Depends on the leather you use, I was quoted $600 for black horse butt plus shipping cost so that probably will be additional $50-70. I would have gotten wescos but I really like horse butt leather so I'm getting one from onderhoud.

Its really difficult to order from him because of increased demand, he would normally do a raffle to determine who he will make boots for. I haven't won any of those raffles yet, he just random messaged me to ask if I was still interested in getting a boot from him (took 7 months for him to reply from my initial inquiry lol)

 

[TheOldFashioned]

I am getting quite heated about boots since I ordered the Benzein chelsea

So onderhoud is knowm for engineers and the monkey boots? How does he compare to Benzein?

@Ayeteael , who else would you recommend for a top end pair of westerns? I would like a nice hand tooled pair

Edit: if I still wanted to put my name down with Lee Miller of Texas Traditions, what is the best point of contact?

Admittedly, I know squat about western boots, but found this thread to be very helpful and informative when I decided to pick some up:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/cowboy-boots.5882/
​

Pay attention to what member bamaboots has to say. He knows his stuff. If you're into vintage look for Paul Bond boots. For a bit more flair (which may be up your alley), Stewart-Romero. If Lucchese, either Lucchese Classics for more recent stuff (avoid the 1883 and 2000 lines) or vintage boots stamped San Antonio.

I have a pair of L-R (vintage) Tony Lamas, Black Jack, and Chris Romero:

 

[red devil]

With cowboy boots, I've only had experience with Lucchese. I don't own any custom boots yet, but Lucchese is generally regarded as a good maker. Their "1883" line is on the lower price point, while their "Classics" line are more expensive and made in El Paso. Boots made in America command a premium, but I still enjoy my boots made in Mexico, and they're excellent value.(https://www.gearpatrol.com/style/a640015/mexicos-shoemaking-history/)

There are many excellent bootmakers and I'm no expert, but I've also read great things about Rios of Mercedes and I purchased a pair of Heritage Boots while in Austin for my wife. I've also been tempted to pick up a pair of Tecovas, since they incorporated the direct-to-consumer model with boots.

If you want to go custom, check this out from Texas Monthly:
https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/25-top-custom-bootmakers/

Re Texas Traditions specifically, I initially reached out via Instagram and was directed to call or email them. Contact info:
Texas Traditions
Lee Miller Boots
2222 College Avenue
Austin, Texas 78704-5206
TexasTraditions@mac.com
512-443-4447

Good luck.

Thanks, I will try calling them when they open today

I love my honcho boots they are great value. Their website and IG is horrible and does not show what they can do.

rios of Mercedes is another quality brand and olathe makes good boots i think owned by the same company

i follow on IG heritage boots, parker boots, rocketbuster, too many to count really there are a lot of small boot makers around the US

i tried a pair of lucchese ropers non classic line and returned them. They had i think a cardboard lining. And price wise i would rather get another honcho pair

liberty boot, stallion boots, black jack boots...

I understand what you mean about their website, what price range are they in?

Benzein makes great stuff (to me personally as I have 3 boots from them with another 1 on order) and they use really sought after leather that's why I always go back to them.

Hmm I think part of the allure of getting a pair from onderhoud is because of he was once a one man company (he now has a few people that work for him) and there's that little bit of exclusivity/long queue because of word of mouth from instagram boot influencers. I think the engineers and the monkey boots he does are exceptional, he also does a great looking packed boot and boondockers though.

Look up flame panda, he makes great stuff too. I think his 102 last looks similar to your blue canvas clinch boots. I ordered a black horsebutt for that specific boot.

The 102 last looks very simillar indeed, curious to hear your impressions when you get them. What is their lead time like?

Love those brown honchos. I live in CA, in the west coast so I can justify having a western boot, right? Right? Lol

The most important thing is whether you feel comfortable in a pair, I would say try one!

Admittedly, I know squat about western boots, but found this thread to be very helpful and informative when I decided to pick some up:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/cowboy-boots.5882/
​

Pay attention to what member bamaboots has to say. He knows his stuff. If you're into vintage look for Paul Bond boots. For a bit more flair (which may be up your alley), Stewart-Romero. If Lucchese, either Lucchese Classics for more recent stuff (avoid the 1883 and 2000 lines) or vintage boots stamped San Antonio.

I have a pair of L-R (vintage) Tony Lamas, Black Jack, and Chris Romero:
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Stewart-Romero has some very interesting models, just looked them up

Edit: typos

 

[Bamaboots]

Edit: if I still wanted to put my name down with Lee Miller of Texas Traditions, what is the best point of contact?

Texas Traditions stopped taking new customer orders a few years ago when their lead time reached four years. Haven’t checked in some time so I don’t know if this has changed.