Fitzgerald vs. Hemingway

[nulty]

Fitzgerald was in fact from a family who by 1935 he had little contact with and also from which there was little in the way of fortune. Scott had a life long obsession with those with money and the enormous power he fantasized that it gave them.

In the scene from "'Gatsby" where Nick and Gatsby are searching for ciggarettes Scott writes about the closets of shirts in detail talking about the different colors and styles. Scott paid much more attention to style and probably had a more natural affinity toward outward appearence than Ernest who was much more cerebral and fought his demons from within. As opposed to Scott who was always at odds with some external social malady.

I've often thought that Mr. Chevalier poses an extreme likeness to F. Scott Fitzgerald. There is a photo from the QM collection that is hauntingly alike...if I've rendered my profile correctly a similarity might be seen in the avatar

 

[jake_fink]

Cornell Woolrich was always natily attired. He even kept a sailor suit in a box under his bed during the short time he was married.

And if the oic doesn't work here is a link

 

[Sefton]

What I want to know is where I can get pebbly grained thick-soled shoes of a right shade of liverish brown.

 

[Daisy Buchanan]

What a great thread.
However, I can't say anything in regards to either man, being that I live with Hemingway and I was created by Fitzgerald

 

[Baron Kurtz]

I've always enjoyed the story that, though he was by no means poor, George Orwell intentionally wore old torn (shabby) clothing as a protest against wealth and the imperialist ideals.

bk

 

[Jovan]

Well, Dominguin's affair with Ava Gardner ,my eye...
Bullfighting is simply repulsive to me.
Sorry, that's the way I feel about it.

I agree. The sword thing adds a lot of insult to injury, too. That's something none of those WB cartoons would depict.

I don't have much to say about Hemingway, as pretty much anything I know of him is from Young Indiana Jones. But I did think Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby was a great novel, despite it being required reading in 11th grade. Apparently I missed something from my high school experience, because the unwritten rule is to groan and say whatever book you're reading for class is "boring" and "sucks." :whistling

 

[Rooster]

Hem at an impromptu cock fight in Cuber.

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[Marc Chevalier]

I've often thought that Mr. Chevalier poses an extreme likeness to F. Scott Fitzgerald.

What better compliment to receive? Thanks! (Lost some weight recently, so my chin looks more like Fitzgerald's in your avatar.) Scott was less than 5'9", though, and I'm nearly 6'. And not alcoholic.

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[Marc Chevalier]

What I want to know is where I can get pebbly grained thick-soled shoes of a right shade of liverish brown.

lol lol Wit wins!

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[Daisy Buchanan]

What better compliment to receive? Thanks! (Lost some weight recently, so my chin looks more like Fitzgerald's in your avatar.) Scott was less than 5'9", though, and I'm nearly 6'. And not alcoholic.

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I don't know Marc, I've seen that Absinthe contraption of yours!!

 

[Harp]

Cornell Woolrich was always natily attired. He even kept a sailor suit in a box under his bed during the short time he was married.

And if the oic doesn't work here is a link

...Woolrich, the ever tormented soul.

fftopic: ...good avatar. John Keehan's dojo at 79th/Ashland was located
in my old south side neighborhood. When I was about twelve I snuck inside and asked him to teach me Shorin but was declined.

 

[jake_fink]

...Woolrich, the ever tormented soul.

fftopic: ...good avatar. John Keehan's dojo at 79th/Ashland was located
in my old south side neighborhood. When I was about twelve I snuck inside and asked him to teach me Shorin but was declined.

It was probably best you didn't persist. Dangerous man.

PS Last day for this avatar. Bye Count Dante.

 

[cookie]

Liverish Schmiverish

What I want to know is where I can get pebbly grained thick-soled shoes of a right shade of liverish brown.

Try this guy on eBay: mapvintage

 

[Marc Chevalier]

Try this guy on eBay: mapvintage

Be be warned: that particular pebble grained number is curling upward at the toe. Not the best example of a bespoke shoe, alas.

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[Sefton]

Oh,well. I'll just give up on liverish and move on to oxblood. Just want to keep the conversation circulating...:whistling

 

[cookie]

Oxblood

Should only be used in Haitian voodoo ceremonies and cannot be the subject of a live eBay auction whilst wearing higharmholes and posting on the FL...

 

[jamespowers]

His work may not be your cup of tea, but I don't think it's fair to call him a bum. He worked very hard at his craft and took literature very, very seriously. He was a rigorous intellect but also managed to live a full material life - in fact the two were not easily separated for him.

Now, if you'd called him a misogynist, or a homophobe, or a racist... then I'd have had trouble jumping to his defense.

See, I have a problem separating him from his work. He was all those things and more. A friend of mine was in the merchant marine in the South Pacific when Hemingway was there. The stories I heard would make you blush and run away. He was a maniac who needed treatment. It was a shame really.

Regards,

J

 

[jamespowers]

I've always enjoyed the story that, though he was by no means poor, George Orwell intentionally wore old torn (shabby) clothing as a protest against wealth and the imperialist ideals.

bk

Was that before or after he wrote 1984? His ideas had changed quite a bit by then. One of the biggest anticommunists of his age and he knew since he once was enamored of their cause.

 

[Harp]

It was probably best you didn't persist. Dangerous man.

PS Last day for this avatar. Bye Count Dante.

I tried another time but without luck. Like the new avatar.

 

[Harp]

What a great thread.
However, I can't say anything in regards to either man, being that I live with Hemingway and I was created by Fitzgerald

...you're far too young and beautiful to be his daughter.