they model everysize, and most would benefit wearing XS, or S or M, but instead, personally they would pick far beyond their appropriate size and pick XXL just look at the video where they walk together on the street as a group presentation, they wear the pants with crotch halfway to their knee
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Fitcheck Fine creek leon 44 or 42. Which one should i choose.
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Canuck Panda
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My best advise is to sell the 44 Leon for now. Use that funds and get a different fit jacket. And wear the 42 while doing so.
If you want to stay in the Japanese realm of jackets, have a look at the Toys Mccoy Durable. It has much wider shoulders and regular length sleeves and taper fit. If you find it better than your Leon you can sell the Leon after getting a feel of the Durable. The Durable also comes with a Crown style zipper which is better than the Waldes one imo.
Also if you're looking at Fine Creek jackets you can always check out their YT videos first to see how they fit. They have these sizing videos for most of their jackets, different size guys wearing different size jackets, gives you a feel of what they are without spending money on them first,
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Now that’s how a crosszip should fit!
Relatedly, could we please bring back the honest reviews? I keep seeing low quality brands getting promoted/ad time and no one is bashing them—definitely not enough.
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To be honest I have also worn super tight fit similar to the Leon. The only difference was I didn't pay the Leon price nor did these super tight fit jackets came with shortened sleeves.
So I understand the OP feeling the jacket rides up. This is what happens when wearing super tight fit jackets, they ride up and kinda uncomfortable but that is the super tight fit. And when open they look oversized but they are actually undersized. I wore this quite a bit in the early 2000s. Everything was undersized then. Some suit jackets had ridiculously short 28" back length, and I was used to at least 32". I just never expected this look to come back but it did in Japan.
My biggest advise is not to spend big bucks on trendy fits. Classic fits last forever. I remember picking up my 211LB from Lucky Brand sale rack for very little money.
There are lots of sizing and fit videos on YT. Watch it before spending.
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Like others said - sell both jackets - even at a loss and I won’t even bother with altering either - you’d end up with something even less sellable and end up selling even cheaper and with the money you paid for altering it you’d be even more out of pocket…
So even more reasons to sell them both!!
If you truly have longer than standard arms for chest size, consider getting a custom made one.
I used to think custom is too expensive - aero charges £1100 or so now (used to be 800-900 last year!) But for a decent pre worn jacket you’d be looking at £300 or so anyway, and it may not fit! After multiple buying and selling you’d get tired and just pull the trigger getting a custom one.
I’d rather own just one well fitted jacket than several that don’t fit. Life is too short.
So even more reasons to sell them both!!
If you truly have longer than standard arms for chest size, consider getting a custom made one.
I used to think custom is too expensive - aero charges £1100 or so now (used to be 800-900 last year!) But for a decent pre worn jacket you’d be looking at £300 or so anyway, and it may not fit! After multiple buying and selling you’d get tired and just pull the trigger getting a custom one.
I’d rather own just one well fitted jacket than several that don’t fit. Life is too short.
Honestly I like fc leon because of their leather. I have never seen a leather jacket with such nice texture and thick quality leather. Especially since it still looks beautiful when it gets old.
Buco j24, Schott sjh look more fitted with me but their skin is also normal.
I will return the 44 and accept wearing the 42 with slightly shorter sleeves.
Buco j24, Schott sjh look more fitted with me but their skin is also normal.
I will return the 44 and accept wearing the 42 with slightly shorter sleeves.
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So you're saying shinki, which is what the Buco j24 leather is, is just 'normal'?
Brand new: May 2021
November 2022
And finally March 2024 for these two
So is this leather flat, uninteresting and didn't get better with time?
Everyone has an opinion, and you can have yours, but until you put in the work, you can't tell how "normal" leather will evolve.
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It might be, depending on what someone likes in a leather.
But that doesn't take away from your point, because the Leon, 613SJH, and RMC Buco all use the same type of veg tanned Shinki horsehide with a black topcoat.
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Send the 44 to JL to cut up and turn into proper jacket filling in the gaps with some premium "normal" leather?
To be clear this will likely cost more than whatever loss he’d take selling the Leon plus the cost of buying a Perfecto or something lol
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Yes, but he would be able keep the leather that he likes so much!
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Fair point, I can respect other's preferences in what leather they like.
you know the beauty of rolled cuff like vanson without stitching, you can easily lengthen the sleeve. just adding a strip of leather or corduroy or moleskin or canvas after the sleeve liner then the leather shell would be longer too. I think because they caters for riders and every bike might have different reach to its handlebar, so the length can be adjusted as you need. I follow that way on my custom jackets because the concept and the probable purpose behind it sounds very logical and purpose oriented even when I never lengthen my sleeves, and the only jacket that actually shrank on me after being washed is the only jacket with different cuff construction lololol 
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OP, no idea why those jackets fit so poorly at the back. Not very flattering
OP, no idea why those jackets fit so poorly at the back. Not very flattering
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OP I'm going to highly recommend moving on from both jackets. Your choice of course, but my goodness there's a reason why we've all said thay neither looks good. Its just such a terribly patterned jacket.
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Tastes differ, one may or may not like how the leather ages. But that doesn't change the fact that the pattern is just terribly bad.
If I were you I'd sell the FC and get a Schott 613 in a nice leather instead. Like the 613SH, 613SJH or the 613UHT
An aged Leon still looks bad.
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People being scammed into buying those motorcycle jacket knock-offs while true gems by Fine Creek lie undiscovered. They actually did some insanely good stuff, like this M-65. Every damn stitch has been translated into leather perfectly.
That’s impressively bad
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