Fifty Shades of what in the HELL is she talking about?

[Lorne]

I was reading my Sunday Boston Globe when I saw a quote from Dakota Johnson, who is in the upcoming movie "Fifty Shades of Grey."


"I think its unsexy when a man chews with his mouth open or when a man is rude or wears fedoras."


Well, there is once soft-core porn movie I will not be watching this year...


Lorne

 

[RJR]

Yet another life changing opinion from Hollywood!

 

[BayouBeard]

You mean like the fedora she's wearing here in New York?

 

[tonyb]

^^^^^^
Thoughts of a certain Randy Newman song.

 

[The Good]

I don't really understand the modern dislike of fedoras. Is it because of the type of people mainly seen wearing them, in the media, or on the streets? Yes, they've more recently been in fashion, and I believe they are on their way out of fashion if they still are, but I think Dakota Johnson may be talking about the short brimmed trilby hats, usually made of cotton, straw, synthetic materials, and occasionally wool. Fur felt trilbies are nice hats, but they aren't often seen, and one would normally need to make the effort to go to a hat store or an online store to buy one, anyway. Dakota may just not like the fashion of the short brimmed hats, worn mainly on younger people, if her wide-brimmed hat is of any indication. Or, she is an obnoxious hypocrite altogether.

 

[Rogera]

There's no way she's referring to a proper hat. Since we lounge members see and talk hats hats on such a regular basis and are so familiar with hats, I think we forget the fact that what we call a fedora and what the rest of the world calls a fedora are two different things. What we wear are called "old man hats".

 

[hatophile]

You mean like the fedora she's wearing here in New York?

She just doesn't like them on men?

 

[alanfgag]

It's a theme that comes up again and again. Must be a reason.

 

[Hat Dandy]

There is a number of Internet memes that address this topic. Evidently, it stems from a number of young men wearing fedoras (actually poor quality trilbys) and behaving in an infantile and distorted view of manhood. Fedora shaming is part of this meme. The less you know the better off you will be. To be honest, the facile opinion of bigoted persons like Miss Johnston matter naught to me.

 

[AMGbullitt]

There is a number of Internet memes that address this topic. Evidently, it stems from a number of young men wear fedoras (actually poor quality trilbys) and behave in an infantile and distorted view of manhood. Fedora shaming is part of this meme. The less you know the better off you will be. To be honest, the facile opinion of bigoted persons like Miss Johnston matter naught to me.

Here, here....well said

not to mention the idiotic and infantile actions of those wearing baseball caps in every rediculous manner.

 

[tropicalbob]

Why in the world would anyone care what she thinks about anything? I went out with a couple of actresses in N.Y. years ago, and their only topic was themselves. Who cares?

 

[vintage68]

I once had a profile on a dating site, and I explicitly said "Please, no aspiring actors."

 

[Stanley Doble]

If you knew what Fifty Shades of Gray was you wouldn't care what she thought about anything.

 

[PHIL1959]

So she doesn't like men wearing fedoras!
I don't care what she or other Opinionated actors have to say!
I wear my hats for ME! and not as a fashion statement. And certainly don't need the approval of her to do so.

 

[johnnycanuck]

Many years ago, in my single days, I ended more than one relationship because they couldn’t “handle” me wearing a hat. Each to their own. As the song goes “some girls don’t like boys like me, but some girls do”.
Johnny
Haters gonna hate

 

[hatsRme]

As she struggles in a failed attempt to be relevant, I wonder who she is, again?

And the more posts she gets here, the more successful she is. Let's not support this foolishness, let the thread die.

 

[Genuine Classic Gangster]

Why in the world would anyone care what she thinks about anything?

On one hand, I don't care about her opinion, nor that of anyone else's who bashes fedora wearing.

On the other hand, I care about their opinions insomuch as they contribute towards an already-existing, somewhat prevalent culture of hate towards fedora wearers, one which often breeds dangerous attitudes.

Many users of the internet post messages on various websites that imply that any man who wears a fedora is in some way weird. Granted, those messages have no merit and are ridiculous...but the problem is that not every reader of them will understand that. Some readers will take those ridiculous messages at face value, believe them, and consequently, harbor hateful feelings towards every and any man who they see wearing a fedora. And that is exactly what the original posters of such messages wanted to happen in the first place: their goal in posting those messages was to spread their hate and convert others into their mob mentalities.

To be sure, the quotation from the lady in the OP is not directly implying the kind of hateful messages to which I refer, but it is still dangerous, because the hatemongers use quotations like that one to give their hate an appearance of legitimacy, by twisting such quotations into the impression that celebrities agree that wearers of fedoras have something wrong with them.

Of course, even if celebrities did actually agree with the hatemongers' hate, that still would not legitimize it...but nevertheless, had the celebrities not made any anti-fedora comments, the hatemongers would have less fuel with which to stoke their fires and increases their numbers.

Because of everything I've mentioned above, I believe that threads like this one - and indeed this whole website - are very important, because they allow for voices of resistance against anti-fedora-wearing-men hatemongering.

To be clear, in this post, I'm not implying that everyone must like fedoras. If someone does not like fedoras, that's fine, no problem.

What I am saying is that we presently live in a culture which allows and makes acceptable for strangers unjustifiably to besmirch men's reputations solely because the strangers saw the men wearing fedoras (or saw pictures of the men in their online profiles...pictures which the hatemongers often steal without the men's knowledge or permission), and that culture of hate is wrong and needs to be stopped.

 

[jlee562]

Eh, people have always made an "other," the internet merely gives everyone a platform to voice it "anonymously."

In the interest of playing devils advocate and giving voice to the other side, other than the single sentence in the OP: http://jezebel.com/dude-asks-what-women-think-of-fedoras-and-the-answers-a-1512593446

Of course that's a sampling from reddit posters which itself is a certain subset and not necessarily representative of "this generation."

 

[hatophile]

I guess I'm about 50 shades of gray and over 50 myself, so I really don't care much for what all the "cool" people think. By the same token, I have only received nice comments on my hats, many by attractive young ladies.

 

[Zombie_61]

There's no way she's referring to a proper hat. Since we lounge members see and talk hats hats on such a regular basis and are so familiar with hats, I think we forget the fact that what we call a fedora and what the rest of the world calls a fedora are two different things. What we wear are called "old man hats".

Spot on! You have to take her age into consideration. She's 25 years old, so the "men" she knows are probably hipsters or hipster types wearing cheap Trilbys that she thinks are Fedoras. Besides, here in the U.S. she's allowed to express her opinions regardless of how wrong or misinformed they are.