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This is exactly one of my findings. That even though the shoulder slope may be taller or shorter when new, once the jackets are worn repeatedly the leather stretches out where they need to go. Thus busting the neck pressure theory. I literally went down this neck pressure path and found nothing, except the thickness of the seams, and the different types of seam bulk reduction. Again everything will eventually even out once worn in.I'm trying to understand but I have no idea what you're talking about. Here's the Manhattan. 7.5cm which is 3". Exactly what Greg is missing? Here it is
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That was my order, there's nothing wrong with the shoulder. It came up slightly too big because he didn't take into account the French seams on the back.
FWIW, you've worn this jacket many times. It started its life with the shoulder slope height around 2" to 2.5". I have the sale Manhattan and I don't wear it much, so I bet mine is still not stretched out like yours. But if I wore it a few more times yes I get the same slope height.
It's just some jackets would come new with taller slope height (like the A2) for even when new it can look like it's been worn. That's all I am getting at. Not arguing.