Excessive posting? ... Interesting.....

[Gregg Axley]

Don't take it personally, Tom has an irrational dislike/fear of imports.

But not of 4 letter words like DART. :eeek:
I deal with vehicles a lot, and if I had to buy domestic it would be Ford.

 

[jamespowers]

I deal with vehicles a lot, and if I had to buy domestic it would be Ford.

Gee, I feel sorry for you then.

 

[Gregg Axley]

Gee, I feel sorry for you then.

Let's just say I've had the big 3 at work, and Ford is the most reliable.
Flawless? No, especially the Taurus transmission.
Other than those, the other models I have are trouble free.

 

[jamespowers]

Let's just say I've had the big 3 at work, and Ford is the most reliable.
Flawless? No, especially the Taurus transmission.
Other than those, the other models I have are trouble free.

I have just had numerous problems with every Ford my father had the no sense to buy. The last was that stupid variable venture crap. You never knew when it would leave you stranded. Before that it was a Mercury that the idiots in the factory didn't tighten the heads down on the engine. It leaked oil like a sieve and it took months for the morons at the dealership to figure it out---well actually my father had to take a day off and show them when it was on the lift. I won't even mention the Mustangs that were so poorly treated at the factory that they rusted like tin.......

 

[Gregg Axley]

I have just had numerous problems with every Ford my father had the no sense to buy. The last was that stupid variable venture crap. You never knew when it would leave you stranded. Before that it was a Mercury that the idiots in the factory didn't tighten the heads down on the engine. It leaked oil like a sieve and it took months for the morons at the dealership to figure it out---well actually my father had to take a day off and show them when it was on the lift. I won't even mention the Mustangs that were so poorly treated at the factory that they rusted like tin.......

Monday and Friday cars.
I have Escapes.
Oh I won't argue about the quality from years gone by, but maybe they've learned their lesson.
At least for the past 3yrs the quality on mine seem to be first rate.

 

[jamespowers]

Monday and Friday cars.
I have Escapes.
Oh I won't argue about the quality from years gone by, but maybe they've learned their lesson.
At least for the past 3yrs the quality on mine seem to be first rate.

I dunno about that. lol lol

 

[AtomicEraTom]

I wouldn't call having an unwavering pride in my own nation's products irrational. The only fear of them I have is dying in one because of their terrible build quality.

Don't take it personally, Tom has an irrational dislike/fear of imports.

 

[jamespowers]

I wouldn't call having an unwavering pride in my own nation's products irrational. The only fear of them I have is dying in one because of their terrible build quality.

:rofl: You sure?

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/gtr_20110212_1.shtml

 

[AtomicEraTom]

Pretty sure that my Brougham craps cars like that.

:rofl: You sure?

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/gtr_20110212_1.shtml

 

[V.C. Brunswick]

Of course there is a reason why imports managed to get such a foothold in the US market in the first place.

 

[AtomicEraTom]

Yup, the American public gave up style and quality for 4-cylinder commieboxes, all in the name of fuel-economy.

Of course there is a reason why imports managed to get such a foothold in the US market in the first place.

 

[jamespowers]

Smart car=Dumb Car

Background: Car was crossing rt 102 in londonderry, NH and a crown victoria hit it on the side going 60 miles an hour. The mx6 rolled 3 and a half times and landed the drivers arm was stuck through the sunroof.:eusa_doh::eeek:

 

[AtomicEraTom]

How'd the Panther look afterward, I wonder.

Car was crossing rt 102 in londonderry, NH and a crown victoria hit it on the side going 60 miles an hour. The mx6 rolled 3 and a half times and landed the drivers arm was stuck through the sunroof.:eusa_doh::eeek:

 

[jamespowers]

How'd the Panther look afterward, I wonder.

Probably less messed up than when you hit that deer.

 

[jamespowers]

A nice safe micro car:

Occupants? Dead.http://www.thefedoralounge.com/bad993.shtml

 

[AtomicEraTom]

Well, a deer is better built than an import.

Probably less messed up than when you hit that deer.

 

[jamespowers]

Well, a deer is better built than an import.

:rofl:

 

[Gregg Axley]

Yup, the American public gave up style and quality for 4-cylinder commieboxes, all in the name of fuel-economy.

GM decided to fight this with one car (when I was a kid), the Vega.
Almost 70 yrs of designing and you came up with that?
Underpowered for it's size, making performance non existent.
Ford's answer was the Capri.
Another brilliant move...

 

[Justin B]

I wouldn't call having an unwavering pride in my own nation's products irrational. The only fear of them I have is dying in one because of their terrible build quality.

I don't think anyone would fault you for having pride in your country, but when it comes to cars the lines are a bit blurry.

Lets take the Ford F-150 truck. American as apple pie, right? Except they're built in Mexico, not the US. Same for Chevy Tahoes and GMC Yukons.

Well, what about BMWs like the 3 series, X5, and Z4? Evil German cars...except they're built in Spartanburg South Carolina.

Honda has six plants in Ohio cranking out Accords, Civics and Elements.

The Ford 500? It's a Volvo S80. The Chyrsler 300? It's a Mercedes E-class.

And having been a mechanic and having worked on everything from a Model T to a Ferrari I can tell you the are crap cars from everywhere, and some really nicely put together ones from places you wouldn't expect.

/rant

 

[V.C. Brunswick]

GM decided to fight this with one car (when I was a kid), the Vega.
Almost 70 yrs of designing and you came up with that?
Underpowered for it's size, making performance non existent.
Ford's answer was the Capri.
Another brilliant move...

And remember the Pinto and its novel cigarette lighter? All you had to do was hit it and Boom!!!

[video=youtube;qZDVqhWGILA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZDVqhWGILA[/video]

And soon GM cars will be coming from China.