Durable cotton t-shirts to pair with leather jackets

[jacketjunkie]

I appreciate quality in t-shirts, however when faced with the decision between a new leather jacket or five new ts, I pick the leather jacket any day. This is partly because I only wear white t shirts though, I don't own a single colored one. Somewhat of a pragmatic approach, makes washing easier. If I was buying t shirts with more details than plain white, I would probably buy higher quality.

Here's a helpful comparison thread on a few standard 6-7 oz decent non-see-through weight for those who want it cheap and plain. https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashio...arison_of_several_classic_heavy_weight_blank/

 

[John Lukich]

As usual, Heddels does what appears to be a good job on the surface, but is a cut-rate job once analyzed further.

I feel like the issue with sizing and it affecting the grading of a particular shirt is a valid concern, but to call the whole thing cut-rate might be a bit much. There's a lot of data there that is still useful and valid, sizing concerns aside.

 

[Seb Lucas]

As usual, Heddels does what appears to be a good job on the surface, but is a cut-rate job once analyzed further.

I think the analysis is perfectly fine for what it is. I learned much more than I expected. Naturally, it doesn't have the rigour of a scientific journal article.

The idea of getting a range of t's in one labeled size for comparison is interesting and ok by me. Just learning about their qualities and how they panned out after wear was useful. Sure you can pick flaws but I have an enhanced frame of reference now. Not often you can say that about an article written about clothing.

 

[ProteinNerd]

Unfortunately, they do not review the t-shirts that I personally favor (e.g., TFH, SO, RMC, PBJ, Warehouse, etc.). I am confident that the outcome would have been very different had these brands been included.

When can we expect your 38 page review with similar in depth analysis of your preferred high end shirts including multiple charts and graphs ?? [emoji23]

Not taking a dig at you specifically @Superfluous but there is an awful lot of info and effort in that article and it probably delivers valuable info to a lot more people than an in-depth review of $300 t-shirts will.

I’m also assuming that people willing and able to spend $300 on a t shirt are using very different criteria to judge a shirt than the rest of us mere mortals [emoji6]

 

[ton312]

Has anyone tried these? I believe they cost around $150 a pair, waxed cotton. An essential item for the high end under garment connoisseur. LOL.

 

[Rich22]

Really - I have over twenty large t-shirts in three brands they are all 21 p to p.

The Kirklands are bloody useless to me because they are 26.5 inches long. I never tuck in a t-shirt and need them to be around 23 inches long for them to work properly as outerwear.

You made me curious to investigate deeper, Seb. I grabbed 5 'L' t-shirts I own from 5 different brands, lay them flat on a tiled floor and measured. p2p: 22, 22, 22.5, 23, 23.5. Openings: 20.5, 20.5, 20.5, 21, 22. Back lengths (measured from bottom of collar down) were between 26.3 and 28.3. I then dug out three that didn't fit so well: 22.5/22/24.8 (too baggy in the waist, too boxy, too short), 24/23/25.5 (too big and boxy mainly), 21/20/26.5 (too tight, looks silly, but fine length).

I could have kept on measuring for another 20 t's, but I've removed tags on most so i don't know if they were L or XL. I do seem to have over estimated by saying 23-24 was average for my L collection, as 22-23 seems more common. If I measured a couple of inches below the seam on p2p then a further inch could be removed from the measurement.

What is interesting is the length I apparently like- much longer than the norm here. I'm 6'1 with a long torso and short legs for my height. My T's all fall above pocket height on my jeans.

EDIT: Ah crap, that table above measures front length, not back length. Does it include collar? Minus collar the front length on all 8 of those T's is between 21.3 and 24.4 inches. 22" front length is the lowest on any T I actually like of those, and that's pushing it.

And so I can avoid measuring t-shirts again in the future, sleeves that are 8-9" work for me, and 17.5 looks good on the shoulder.

Measured my favourite tapered T: 23.2/20

 

[Monitor]

Has anyone tried these? I believe they cost around $150 a pair, waxed cotton. An essential item for the high end under garment connoisseur. LOL.
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Let's just hope the wax won't melt.

 

[Big J]

If the wax does melt, you can give yourself a 'Brazilian' when you take them off.
Has anyone got a link? These sound just the ticket for rainy season.

 

[ton312]

If the wax does melt, you can give yourself a 'Brazilian' when you take them off.
Has anyone got a link? These sound just the ticket for rainy season.

LOL! These were a Ship John spoof but I couldn't resist posting them in this thread.

 

[Superfluous]

To be clear, I think the Heddel article, while flawed, is nevertheless a useful resource.

I’m also assuming that people willing and able to spend $300 on a t shirt are using very different criteria to judge a shirt than the rest of us mere mortals [emoji6]

$300? Notwithstanding my patronage of quality t-shirts, I would not spend over $160 for a t-shirt. There are many great options in the $60-160 range. The premier fashion brands offer $300+ t-shirts -- they usually have graphics and are not better quality. Pass.

An essential item for the high end under garment connoisseur.

Although your post was obviously made in jest, the use of the word "under garment" deserves re-emphasis. Those who purchase t-shirts strictly as an "under garment" must be distinguished from those who purchase t-shirts as a top layer. The underlying considerations are entirely different. I do not purchase TFH, SO, or RMC t-shirts to wear underneath my suits.

If the wax does melt, you can give yourself a 'Brazilian' when you take them off.

 

[zebedee]

I have some very durable Corrymoor socks, made of mohair and resistant to all kinds of hoo-ha. They don't shrink or smell or rub the feet- for the price, they're a steal, although others may baulk, feeling their chain-store socks to be sufficient.

I shall not be reviewing them against other sock-type items and have, so far, failed to make them the focal point of my clothing choices. Should this change, you good people will be the first to know.

 

[ton312]

Those who purchase t-shirts strictly as an "under garment" must be distinguished from those who purchase t-shirts as a top layer.

I understand...I personally don't distinguish in that way. I wear the same t-shirts as both an undergarment and top layer.

 

[Seb Lucas]

Me too. Black T-shirts are my winter shirt - I wear them under a black v-neck sweater.

 

[dudewuttheheck]

When can we expect your 38 page review with similar in depth analysis of your preferred high end shirts including multiple charts and graphs ?? [emoji23]

Not taking a dig at you specifically @Superfluous but there is an awful lot of info and effort in that article and it probably delivers valuable info to a lot more people than an in-depth review of $300 t-shirts will.

I’m also assuming that people willing and able to spend $300 on a t shirt are using very different criteria to judge a shirt than the rest of us mere mortals [emoji6]

I've never even spent half of $300 on a t shirt.

I'm not saying it doesn't have some value, but it's still not done as well as it could be. This is probably their best article this year though. Some of what they write is truly lazy.

 

[navetsea]

activities in internet forums about denim are stunted somewhere in mid 2018, 2019 is practically quite dead... I still see activities in instagram on local brand accounts here, but I see people are getting tired of talking about their pants or commenting about other people pants over and over again, and I kind of see people are tired to talk about clothes in general too maybe it is oversaturation from previous years

 

[dudewuttheheck]

activities in internet forums about denim are stunted somewhere in mid 2018, 2019 is practically quite dead... I still see activities in instagram on local brand accounts here, but I see people are getting tired of talking about their pants or commenting about other people pants over and over again, and I kind of see people are tired to talk about clothes in general too maybe it is oversaturation from previous years

Very true. It's actually been stunted since well before that. Some new brands keep discussion going, but otherwise, we basically just talk about which brands are dying lol

Boots are still a fairly big topic, though. That never seems to stop.

 

[Big J]

But the Heddels guy must be doing something right, he's getting hundreds of likes, shares, and comments so he must be popular, and there must be plenty out there that value his opinion. He's probably making a little off the page views too. I think that makes it a very successful blog. Well done him.
It's not like he's only got 2 or 3 followers.
And I like his no nonsense writing style. He's just delivering the information, instead of wrapping it up in TLDR pretentious prose.

@zebedee, I'm inspired! I will now build an ensemble around some $200 socks just to see how much respect I get from the cognoscenti

 

[zebedee]

But the Heddels guy must be doing something right, he's getting hundreds of likes, shares, and comments so he must be popular, and there must be plenty out there that value his opinion. He's probably making a little off the page views too. I think that makes it a very successful blog. Well done him.
It's not like he's only got 2 or 3 followers.
And I like his no nonsense writing style. He's just delivering the information, instead of wrapping it up in TLDR pretentious prose.

@zebedee, I'm inspired! I will now build an ensemble around some $200 socks just to see how much respect I get from the cognoscenti

They work best with something rugged, like a Bootlegger, which you can then offset with open-toed sandals as you wear the socks, drawing the eye to the depth of colour in the mohair and allowing, first-hand, the vivid shades to really shine through without overpowering your other clothing choices. Imitators with their lesser brands (IMHO) fall far short of this triumph in subtle contrast. My next step- Japanese mohair.

 

[Big J]

@zebedee, interesting comment!
All too often socks are overlooked resulting in a look that lets down the high end jacket, hat and jeans they are worn with. Missed opportunity IMHO.
I normally go with a ribbed cotton/wool mix ankle socks for durability and coolness (I haven't been impressed with the silk socks that I've tried thus far), or calf length socks with the cuff turned down to give a relaxed and carefree style.
I always choose earthy dark natural tones for autumn/winter, but prefer pastel shades in summer with a golden leg tan.

 

[zebedee]

@zebedee, interesting comment!
All too often socks are overlooked resulting in a look that lets down the high end jacket, hat and jeans they are worn with. Missed opportunity IMHO.
I normally go with a ribbed cotton/wool mix ankle socks for durability and coolness (I haven't been impressed with the silk socks that I've tried thus far), or calf length socks with the cuff turned down to give a relaxed and carefree style.
I always choose earthy dark natural tones for autumn/winter, but prefer pastel shades in summer with a golden leg tan.

I sometimes go edgy by mixing different colours, especially in autumn. I go for the more sombre colours in winter, when I let the mohair represent seasonal bleakness.

One thing they do, though, is throw off my t-shirt game- even fair quality ones just can't really compete with the thickness and lustre of the Corrymoor, and this has begun to create tension between the various components. By spring, daily dressing has really begun to take a toll on the zen-like calm I'd normally experience when wearing clothes that I may have overspent on and I can be found wandering the house - occasionally tearful - listening to Sinead O'Connor in nothing but lime-green mohair, just trying to re-centre.